Driftwood Cluster X series 3:│moon T7│ЅріzZ T6│Nebula T7│Drewnet T9│

olli66

thanks for all the info. could you give me more details about the 24p to 30p conversion? I usually just drop the clips in my timeline and let premiere or vegas do the conversion...

Azo

@olli66

The only reliable setting that I have found for 30p is Cake V2.3. Cake V2.3 offers excellent video quality for the 24p and 30p modes. So if you need to shoot in 30p you may want to consider this patch, it is super reliable and offers excellent video quality. I modified most of the 30p/720p settings in Flowmotion v2.02, Moon T-4, Moon T-5, etc to allow for reliable recording in the 30p/720p modes. I tested my modified versions of Moon T-4 pretty extensively with the Death Chart in 24p, 30p and the 720p modes and recorded for at least 1hr in those modes on the Death Chart. Keep in mind I did not change any of the 24p settings on any of the patches.

I experimented with recording in 24p and exporting to 30p, IMO this is a very good alternative to recording in 30p mode. The quality is outstanding if you have the export parameters (24p to30p) setup correctly. So this is really a hard decision and you must make the choice. IMO 24p allows the most flexibility and of course there are proponents on both sides of the fence in regards to recording in 24p or 30p.

The settings that I have to export 24p to 30p has its drawbacks though because it takes a long time to export (highest settings for export quality) but the video quality is outstanding. Ultimately you need to decide what is best for you and your workflow. I am a stickler for getting the absolute best quality out the GH2 whilst providing reliable recording. So that being the case even though it would be easier to shoot everything in 30p ( for your uses ) I would probably still shoot in 24p and export to 30p.

I attached the modified Moon T-4 versions so you can shoot in 30p mode with excellent quality. I also have the modified Moon T-5 versions attached, although I did not test Moon T-5 in the 30p/720p modes, it should work just the same as Moon T-4 because T-4 is basically the same as T-5 with the exception of the quantizer and a couple of other settings.

ninurta

hello, i used moon t7, is that banding normal for gh2 or it's a bug?

inqb8tr

23.976 will be ok.

olli66

youtube main purpose and blu-ray video at times...

inqb8tr

should I set the other cams to 24p as well and render to 24p? I hardly know any concerts in 24p

@olli66 depends on what you are gonna do with it later, tv, web...?

andy68

Moon t7 :)

olli66

should I set the other cams to 24p as well and render to 24p? I hardly know any concerts in 24p...

Azo

@olli66

I would shoot it at 24p so that you get the best quality out of the GH2, also it is the most reliable mode in terms of spanning. I modified Moon T-7, Moon T-5 and Moon T-4 so that it would span reliably in the 30p/720p modes but the quality is not as good as the 24p mode.

olli66

guys, short question...I am using the T5 hack...shooting concerts with two GH2's, one GH3 and one GH4 soon and additionally Gopro3 and Panasonic HC-X929...to which resolution/framerate should I set my cams?

TATZU

Anybody get a chance to check out my post above? LOL

olli66

@driftwood that concert footage is solid man! great job next week I shoot a concert with two gh2's with t5 hack, one gh3, gopro3 and panasonic hc-x929. next months a gh4 will be added to the lineup... the gh2's I own since last week. manual film mode set to manual gives me a total screwed up picture. only the hbr mode works but I thought I could shoot with 50fps instead of just 50 did I setup everything correctly?

driftwood

A gig I did a few years back on mainly hacked GH2s.

cjdincer

@Tjabo yes you've found it, 24L is the sweet spot on moon T7. it spans just fine w/a toshiba card. shooting a bird doc since last year; no hick ups. :)

raf702

@Azo Well that sucks to know. I've been amazed by Moon T7's image quality, I can't see myself going to a lower firmware. But I don't know how much of a quality T5 and T7, and if I should switch over.

It's no problem when shooting scenes obviously, but shooting a constant scenario like a music video, interview is certainly an issue with recording stoppage.

Azo

@Tjabo

Honestly, I did not even think to use the 24L settings. Something I will definitely look into though because I actually prefer the look of T-7 over T-5/T-4.

Tjabo

@Azo, after comparing T7 back to back with T5, I found that I liked T7 quite a bit more. Recently I have shot quite a bit with my 12-35 on T7 24L, and it has been great. Excellent image and complete reliability at around 79-80 Mbps. Has anyone else found that they like T7 24L quite a lot?

TATZU

Here is my latest nature short. 98% shot on MoonT7! MY FAVORITE HACK EVER!

Azo

@raf702

Although the quality with T-7 is awesome in my experience it is not as stable as T-5. I had the same exact experience that you have, except it was a talking head type of interview and this is with 2 GH2 cameras rolling. The scene was basically an overexposed white backdrop that caused the both cameras to stop recording. So depending on the scene that you are filming you may experience a failure in the recording.

@GeoffreyKenner I was using 64GB 95/Mbs cards so no it is not the cards, also I formatted each card with SD card formatter in my computer, and then formatted the cards in camera prior to the recording to help prevent any issues whilst recording. On top of that I was using manual lenses a 35mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.4 the electronic lenses increase the chance of having issues with the higher bitrate patches.

I really like the look of Moon T-7 but for me reliability is more important then image quality, my suggestion is to use Moon T-5. Please keep in mind that Moon T-7 is really pushing the limits of the GH2, the camera's stock bitrate is 24Mpbs and with Moon T-7 it is consistently recording between 140-150Mbps. Moon T-5's bitrate depends on the scene that you are shooting but for the most part is normally around 100Mpbs topping out at about 150Mbps with more detailed complex scenes.

Maya

@driftwood why there is no Moon T6 ? From T5 directly to T7? i mean is there any reason to skip Moon T6? and sir is this the last patch. i heard that Moon T8 is gonna be the final patch for GH2. thats exciting. will you share few info About Moon T8?

raf702

But I do use the SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB UHS-1 SDXC 95mbs. And it was stopping right at 4 mins. Even when I formatted the card before shooting.

This wouldn't have been a problem if the music track wasn't around 5:30 minutes. Any ideas about this?

THanks

GeoffreyKenner

I had the same problem on 32gb 45mbs cards, it usually stops after 4 minutes of record time. 64 gb 95mbs doesn't seems to have this problem for me but on the other hand it sometimes has the "file number limit exceeded" problem usually after half the card is full. Not a problem for doing short films since we make backup after each sequences but it can be a real pain when doing some interviews or shooting a music band concert, wedding...

raf702

Moon T7 has been great for me. BUT I did a music video last night with it. But it stopped recording at around 4-mins. And this happened about 3 or 4 times. Does the Moon T7 have a recording limit? It screwed me up cause this video I did was 5 mins long and the GH2 stopped at 4 mins.

dj5500

moon t7 20mm 1.7 (24p - hbr)

andy68

sedna 720p

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