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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • Blackmagic Vs RED

  • I have to say, just shooting randomly last night and today in the park, I'm really loving the images from the camera. It feels like when I got the GH3, moving from shooting with Canons, how much sharper the images were, how much better it was to grade, better colors etc. Now its feels like the same leap again, sharper, better colors, so much fun to play with in post, and awesome skin tones. People look real again. I've just been dropping the Dr Hook LUT on things with minor tweaking and its amazing.

    The hardware side is kinda hit or miss. The battery issue is there, and SD cards aren't ideal, and the screen feels cheap. Changing settings while shooting is a little annoying too, but I guess I'm not changing white balance, ISO and shutter angle THAT often. It would be nice to have those functions mapped to hardware buttons that go unused though.

  • @SuperSet

    I've only had the BMPCC just over 24 hours and it's been raining here, so I haven't tested it in bright sunlight yet. It is a matte screen so I would assume it would be better than the BMCC's glossy screen, but by how much, I don't know.

  • @Brian202020 Is one screen easier to use over the other one in bright daylight?

  • I've only had the BMPCC for a day now, but I think I still prefer my BMCC MFT over the BMPCC. I do not own any electronic MFT lenses tho. If I did, I might think differently. That said, I will be using both regularly for different types of shots or for 2 camera set ups.

  • Hard for a company to invoke the same feeling twice, but the Pocket Camera definitely surprised me and continues to surprise me as I get used to it. Definitely the same kind of awesome as getting the 2.5K MFT the first time.

    At the moment, it's very difficult to say which I actually prefer, the 2.5K or Pocket Camera, and just glad that I do not have to choose.

    Also... Anamorphics (picture attached)

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  • @smsjr

    I'd love to see a picture of how you attached a handle to the Wooden camera cage if you get a second.

  • I kept my expectations low and so far the camera may be exceeding expectations. There are some quirks, no doubt. But having this kind of IQ in such a small package opens up all kinds of possibilities. I will probably keep mine rigged up for most things but the test I did bare camera and 11-16 lens was a bit better than expected. You just need to be careful about the shaking.

    If RAW becomes available, that will stretch this camera's potential even further. I'm going to create some LUTs today and see how far I can push the ProRes film mode.

    I highly recommend getting the Wooden Camera pocket cage. It keeps the form factor small but gives you ability to rig if you need to. i attached a handle, a mount for SmallHD DP4, and configured a shoulder rig as well.

    Audio is my next challenge. :-)

  • @QuinEtiam

    No trolling here. Find another place.

    @vicharris

    And here we go. It's JimmyKorea 3.0!

    Nope, he is not 3.0. I think it was too boring for him, so he just want to troll your guys.

  • Just received my BMPCC yesterday, and I must say this thing is simply magic. I already have the BMCC MFT, so using the BMPCC is second nature for me. I am simply amazed by the quality you can get from such a little camera. I still don't have any SD cards, so I spent yesterday doing tests recording ProRes to my Hyperdeck Shuttle 2. I'm waiting to buy cards as long as I can, because I want to make sure the ones I do buy work with RAW when it's implemented. This camera is far from a POS. The only beef I have is the same beef I have with all BMD camera's fix the audio and give us VU meters.

  • People who call this camera a POS have no idea what they are talking about. Just got mine today and I love it. I'll be shooting some test this week with Lumix and Nikons. I have GH 1,2,&3 and think they are terrific cameras, but the pocket cam is in another league.

  • And here we go. It's JimmyKorea 3.0!

  • I'm right there as well. GH3 for now building up lenses and waiting for the dust to settle a little bit.

  • I said it was a POS from day one. Damn I'm 100% right.

  • Yeah kinda leaning that way.Plus I could sell my GH2 set up and get a better lens like the 12-35mm if I go that route. Thanks for the input.

  • If you need both seems like the GH3 is your best bet that will net you some income and provide a decent platform for narrative. You could always save up and buy a pocket second hand, down the road if need be.

  • Thanks guys... Well since mainly I shoot cinema/narrative I want a cam with a good color space and the dynamic range to achieve high quality graded visuals. The last piece I did i had to crush the bejesus out of the blacks to kill the blocks- Shot it all (Intra Venus 2) and it just made me ill I really cant stand these 4:2:0 8bit cams anymore.HOWEVER I also need a platform for commercial work, and photography too though to help with the bills . My current job is solid but the pay is not so solid.

  • You could always get the Pocket, play around with it, see if you like it, wait for raw and see if that is enough for you and if you don't like it, I'm sure you can sell it for retail really easy if you get it anytime soon. I wouldn't base my decisions on something that will happen sometime in the future though. What are your needs right now? Do that!

  • Don't feel bad, Surrender.

    I have an EF, MFT, and Pocket Camera and I could not tell you which one that you should buy. The price drop makes it an even more difficult decision.

    =] Sorry, that probably didn't help.

  • I am in whirlwind with what to do now... do I cancel the pocket and sell the few accessories I bought???(I actually prepaid so B&H already has my money) Do I get the MFT BMCC even though the passive mount blows?. (I also then need to then buy more glass). Do I get an EF mount and just get the Rokinon Cine's whislt switch photo platform to Canon(I need to also keep some platform for photography)? Do I just get a Gh3 and hope the hack comes?.... I may have a neuron implosion.

  • @vicharris Aside from the fact that we're in "long Jewish holidays season", I don't blame B&H at all for the delay. They receive the same amount of cameras as any other reseller (which is very few per shipment) and have a much much longer pre-order list than anyone else. And they can't quote a time for shipment because apparently BMD lets them know the day before they should expect an order and the amount per shipment are never the same. I ordered from B&H because I expected somewhat of a priority given they are such a big company, big mistake. Cancelled my pre-orders and now like everyone else I'm hoping to get it sooner via a smaller retailer (which is annoying because none of these companies are listed on BMD's site)

  • @vicharris I'll be interested in playing with that footage Vic.
    I'm still debating whether to get a BMPCC in Nov (when a friend is going to US) if it's actually available by that time, or just wait and stick to my GH2 for now.
    ProRes looks sooo nice to play with in Resolve vs the instant macroblocking of AVCHD.

  • @eatstoomuchjam

    Bummer dude. I wonder if I bought the last one they had? Mines sitting a FedEx location 10 miles from my home so I know they at least had that one. Well, you can always wait till 2014 when B&H gets around to filling their orders! JK

  • @vicharris Ok, I get the point. That's what I was asking for. Thanks!