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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • BTW, there's chroma noise on both, especially at the center buildings. When you "punch in" with the crop factor on the BMPCC, the buildings on the edge seem to clear up a little of the noise but that just might be the crop factor doing that. The only way to tell is to pull the pocket cam back so the FOV is the same and see what we get there.

  • After downloading the original files I'd say moire on the buildings was worse on the bmcc. Pocket doesn't seem any softer to me. I can't wait!

  • hey, pretty close @IronFilm

  • Is that chroma noise on the BMCC on the center short buildings?

  • @nomad, I was challenging your claim "it forces you to color grade carefully. No pretty pictures out of the box."

    Someone may want to get a usable shot without grading. Any examples of the rec709 curve?

  • BMCC VS Blackmagic Pocket Camera (done by Captain Hook), both mounted together and using the same lens while shooting together:

  • Could you please post the untouched versions of the last two frames, without the blacks lifted?

  • Yes, I agree with @nomad stay away from the Rec 709 out of any of these cameras! :) Run away, run far away!!!

  • @smsjr Yes, of course! It was massively lifted, since the cathedral is back lit and was nearly a silhouette out of the camera. This is meant to be a stress test, not a pretty picture.

    @_gl The Rec 709 out of the camera looks worse than the GH2. So why bother?

  • @nomad what is going on with that GH2 image? There looks to be artifacting or something strange going on in the texture of the cathedral.

  • There is supposed to be a 'video' (rec709) gamma curve you can toggle on for ProRes.

  • Use Captain Hook's LUT

    Pretty much final image, but I suppose that doesn't count as right out of the box.

  • Isn't there an optional Rec709 curve you can record in?

  • But I have to say that the GH2 with Moon T7 still holds it's own when your scene is not too contrasty and you want a final image out of the box or with minor corrections. The BMPCC can give you more range from critical subjects, but it forces you to color grade carefully. No pretty pictures out of the box.

  • Thanks @nomad these are really useful comparisons (for me, at least)!

  • There is a chance of future improvements, but the debayering of the BMCC in Resolve still leaves a lot of chroma moiré. But your theory is correct, it's very obvious with the Sony F55. Sony finally saw the light and gave the F55 a proper OLPF, just as free of moiré as the Epic. When debayered offline, it's clean. In camera still has moiré.

    One more, this time real scenery with strong backlight (same lens, so BMPCC is narrower):

    First is GH2, next it's respective waveform, then the BMPCC and it's waveform. Color differentiation of the BMPCC is much better, noise is lower. Both exposed to protect the highlights.

    GH2_evening_corr.jpg
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    Scopes_GH2_evening.jpg
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    BMPCC_evening_corr.jpg
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    Scopes_BMPCC_evening.jpg
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  • The chroma moire might improve with the offline debayering from RAW files.

  • Play by yourself:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/d82epf2ltqq24q9/BMPCC_col_chart_optimal.mov https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpjh3utmkledm90/BMPCC_col_chart_4_under.mov

    @Ralph_B Yes, there's detail, but that's ambiguous information. It can bite you badly in some situations. For my part, I like cameras with enough photocells and proper OLPF. The 2.5K BMCC could have a filter and still resolve HDTV.

    Here are color corrected charts for the GH2, optimal exposure on the left, 4 stops under to the right. Blue in particular get's very noisy and is nearly impossible to adjust at that level. This range of correction is where the BMPCC shines (and this is already one of the best settings for GH2: Moon T7).

    GH2_col_chart_optimal.jpg
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    GH2_col_chart_4_under.jpg
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  • @lmackreath

    The shot on the left is from Brawley's ungraded footage. The shot on the right is a somewhat excessive grade for reference, without sharpening or noise reduction. Draw your own conclusions.

    clock_raw_1.7.2.jpg
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    clock_CC_1.7.1.jpg
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  • It doesn't stop at 1000 lines. The pocket camera can resolve 1100 lines vertically and horizontally! Here are 600% blow-ups. You can clearly see the 9 lines of the trumpet at the 1100 mark. I LOVE cameras without anti-aliasing filters!

    Res BMPCC 600% Horizontal.jpg
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    Res BMPCC 600% Vertical.jpg
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  • @nomad Great charts, man! Thanks for all these info!

  • Beyond 900 you can spot some aliasing, though. But, yes, it's impressive for the number of photocells.

    Here are two color charts, the left is optimal exposure (just before whites are clipping), the right is 4 stops under. Both corrected in Resolve. I'll later post links to the files for your own experiments.

    BMPCC_optimal.jpg
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    BMPCC_4_under.jpg
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  • @nomad

    Thanks for posting the charts. If you change the Pocket camera chart to grayscale (to elimate the color moire), you can clearly see the Pocket camera out-resolves ther GH2. It's perfect up to 1000 lines both vertical and horizontal. Impressive! Here it is blown up 300%.

    Res BMPCC 300%.jpg
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  • @Gerondo I was wondering the same thing, they didn't specify the lens in the notes... Looks great though!

  • @Tron looks great! Nice balance between sharpness en 'soft' film look. Which lens did they use?