And 1080p50 as well. LCD screen is now 920k.

Yes it looks like the many features came from GH2.

Full press release http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-no-joke-full-g5-press-release-leaked-in-oman/

What is the mystery lever next to the shutter button for?

Hopefully non-PZ, too. Electronic FF hmmmm :)

Frankly electronic FF doesn't sound so enticing. Not sure if it's capable of catching subtle movement. Also repeatable focus pulls.

Ah finally! 60fps in 1080p! Good news...

In spanish:

http://www.cscmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78:probamos-panasonic-g5&catid=2:camaras&Itemid=3

'Touchpad AF'. It allows you to move the AF area across the frame with your finger on the LCD while you're framing the shot through the EVF.

Some other things that I notice and welcome:

• HDR feature

• Electronic shutter mode - silent and no vibration

• Use same GH2 battery- BLC12

• UHS-I compatible - allows faster data writing (so can achieve higher bitrate in hacking?)

• AF-Tracking in video recording

And the website oso mention: Continuous recording exceeding 4GB or 29 minutes 59 seconds is not possible when recording MP4 Is this oso the same with GH2 MP4 recording mode?

No wifi though

It is good. As camera must compete, and Panasonic is known for discounts :-)

Seems great... only thing I miss in comparison with Sony SLT is focus peaking :( Is it so hard to implement, or why they just don't do it?

Does it have MIC input? Also it looks the "Electronic shutter mode" can now be used for full resolution photos and not like GH2 for burst shots...

Al in al a very nice camera!!

The newly added Electronic Shutter mode allows silent operation which is helpful in areas where silence is needed

This can be huge for timelapsers, as you can shoot full resolution images and do not worry about shutter life.

Still the same shitty Dynamic Range- I was hoping for a better sensor:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesusleon/7595275710/sizes/o/in/photostream/

I don't think dynamic range is that important. Most of the time the blacks are crushed anyway. Compressing the full dynamic range. I'd like to see better highlight rendering.Real film has very beautiful and smooth highlights. We don't. Harsh fall off to whites.

That's because film is logarithmic in exposure whereas digital is linear (well more exponential, we just tend to measure only the linear part). But if you've ever work with RAW photos before you'll know just how much recoverable detail there is over JPG, I am quite amazed by the GH2 RAW files in Lightroom 4 over 3

I know how great RAW can be. I was mainly referring to video DR. Having more information in the highest highlights is far more valuable and filmic than the overall DR.

@danyyyel

VF must ve the same as in latest cameras. May be with some minor improvements.

Is it just me or does the G5 look like a GH2 without the multi aspect ratio sensor, without the external controls, without the manual movie mode(Easily fixed by VK), and without the few extra megapixels?

It does seem to have a lot of things I wish my GH2 had(HDR, AFF, single point focus, silent shutter with RAW, 1080p @ 60 FPS, 720p @ 120 FPS, the zoom lever, taking stills while shooting 1080p video....etc).

I seriously am not sure what they are going to put in the GH3 that will make me want to buy it over the G5. I am sure they will come up with something though.

Is electronic shutter the same as global shutter? It is my understanding, an electronic shutter reduces the DR over a traditional shutter.

Did I miss something?> Does this have 720p 120?

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

"Does this have 720p 120?

Nope. FZ200 has it."

LX7 has it as well.

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/pressrelease/second_half_new_production2012/index.html#lx7

G5 may have manual controls for video.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=42057000

Just imagine how AMAZING flower footage is going to look in 120fps!!!

(Not to mention the cat, the angry girl friend, the bored kids at the park, ...the possibilities are ENDLESS)

@mpgxsvcd - You cannot forget a major difference between this G5 and the GH3 (or whatever they are going to call it)... the weather sealing. For some of us, that is huge!

@Manu4Vendetta

Check first post :-) I try to update it from time to time.

None of Panasonic's recent camera models include the GH2's 1080p24 encoder, and in my view, that rules them out as upgrades to the GH2. The 24p encoder is effectively a completely separate AVCHD encoder capable of sustained bitrates exceeding 150Mbps.

This statement is 100% false.

• All of latest Panasonic cameras include 1080p24 encoder (but not the necessary sensor modes :-) )
• It is not separate encoder, and all the difference is more related to frame rates and other encoding parameters

encoder is in practice limited to about 100Mbps peak bitrate, and I expect that limit to apply to the G5's 1080p60 video mode as well.

1080p60 requires less bitrate per frame compared to 1080p24 or 1080p30. As for interframe codecs you have much smaller changes and much better changes tracking if use higher framerates.

PTool patch settings for the 24p encoder are completely separate from those of the HBR/FSH/SH encoder.

And? 720p settings are also separate, except bitrate (and bitrate is the same only because this routine is written as such, not because encoder). It does not mean that encoder is separate.

Frame rate is separate, and settings are separate. But encoder itself is the same.

Your claim that a 1080p60 frame requires less bitrate per frame than the same frame size at 24p or 30p is true only for long-GOP recording formats.

It is true for any actual modes used in actual cameras. as 1080p60 mode is using same 0.5 second, 30 frames GOP.

LPowell: "Your claim that a 1080p60 frame requires less bitrate per frame than the same frame size at 24p or 30p is true only for long-GOP recording formats."

Vitaliy_Kiselev: "It is true for any actual modes used in actual cameras. as 1080p60 mode is using same 0.5 second, 30 frames GOP."

By "actual modes", you're evidently referring to the stock GOP-lengths and bitrates of the video modes in unhacked Panasonic cameras. But as I'm sure you understand, what most of us are interested in is how well these cameras will perform with short-GOP, high-bitrate hacks. My point is that regardless of how these modes are implemented in software, in practice they behave effectively as two separate encoders: 24p versus HBR/FSH/SH. The bottom line is that the 24p encoder modes can be hacked to operate at significantly higher bitrates and quality than the HBR/FSH/SH encoder modes. And if the new 1080p60 modes are built on extensions to the HBR/FSH/SH encoder, I expect it will share the limitations of that encoder as well.

Hi, Vitalij,

Is it possible to include in your upcoming G3 hack the new “touchpad” functionality from G5? This is the G5’s most important feature I miss from G3, but obviously it would be a great waste if I upgraded from G3 to G5 just for this reason.

Please, I’d greatly appreciate if you could do it...

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

I believe that the new touch feature is meant for users to look through the viewfinder but swing the lcd out to control focusing. Now this means that you are not actually looking directly at the screen you are touching. However, it means that your nose will not be touching the screen either.

Personally I think this feature is a gimmick. I would just use the LCD for viewing and focusing instead of trying to look through the viewfinder and fumble around with the extended LCD.

More detailed review:

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_g5_review/

A couple of cool new features I found while reading about the G5. This bodes very well for the GH3.

1. High Dynamic and Cross Process video modes. The High dynamic mode definitely has much more dynamic range in the video at the link below. How much more noise will it have?

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/video.html

1. HDR Image mode can use several images to achieve a much broader dynamic range without increasing noise.

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/image_quality.html

1. Level Guage – “The Level Gauge lets the camera detect the horizontal / vertical angle of view with its internal level working with the acceleration sensor. Photos shot in a portrait aspect will be automatically displayed vertically whatever lens is used.” This should have been in the G1!

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/control.html

1. Star Filter and One Point Color modes – Could be great for astro Photography

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/creativity.html

1. You can now select 1080p as an output option for the HDMI output.

“The HDMI output function requires the optional RP-CDHM15/CDHM30 HDMI mini cable. The output resolution of the DMC-G5 can be selected as 1,080p, 1,080i or 480p. Please confirm that the TV you are connecting to has an HDMI input terminal compatible with the selected signal. Depending on the cable used, some functions may not be possible. Panasonic HDMI cables are highly recommended.”

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/creativity.html

1. New two Axis white balance adjustment.

“The DMC-G5's 2-axis adjustment feature gives you a finer white balance adjustment, even when adjusting the Color Temperature Setting or White Set function*. The white balance bracket function shoots 3 consecutive photos with slight changes to the white balance setting of each photo in both the horizontal (amber to blue) and vertical (green to magenta) axes.”

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/creativity.html

1. Bulb mode is limited to 2 minutes. The G2 was limited to 4 minutes and 16 seconds.

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g5/specifications.html

Here is a link to a sample G5 video file straight out of the camera.

http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_g5/sample_images/panasonic_lumix_g5_01.mts

The G5 manual is out.

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Support/Downloads/220239/index.html#anker_222458

Type in DMCG5 and search. Download the 8.2 megabyte manual and not the quick manual.

Here is the definitive answer on whether the G5 does manual movie control.

It does not do manual movie control. PERIOD.

The part where the manual says the G5 records "Normal motion picture" for the PASM modes means that it reverts to Full Auto mode with Auto or Intelligent ISO during movies.

This is found on page 54 of the 8.2 megabyte manual.

Motion pictures cannot be recorded in the following cases.

– [Glistening Water][Glittering Illuminations][Soft Image of a Flower] (Scene Guide Mode) – [Soft Focus][Star Filter] (Creative Control Mode)

• It will be recorded in the following categories for certain Recording Modes. A motion picture

recording matching each Recording Mode will be performed for the ones not listed below. Selected Recording Mode Recording Mode while recording motion picture

• Programme AE Mode • Aperture-Priority AE Mode • Shutter-Priority AE Mode • Manual Exposure Mode Normal motion picture

• [Clear in Backlight] (Scene Guide Mode) Portrait Mode • [Clear Nightscape][Artistic Nightscape][Clear Night Portrait] (Scene Guide Mode) Low Light Mode

It looks like the G5 records 1080p @ 60 FPS, true interlaced 1080i/60, 1080p/30 PSF, and true 720p @ 60 FPS.

I am just going to throw this out there.

"If you don't need 24p then the G5 is equivalent to a stock GH2 without manual controls and the multi-aspect sensor". It has the ETC modes and still image during video capabilities."

Basically, if you are interested in using m4/3s video just like a camcorder then the G5 will be a dream come true for you.

The video from the G5 is outstanding for stock bit rates. This camera is not a replacement for a GH2 because it does not do 24p and Manual controls during video. However, for people that don't use those things this is truly an excellent hybrid camera.

That being said I can't wait to see what the GH3 brings. It will have to have everything the G5 has and then some. I just wish I knew what the "And then some" is?

What about the high dynamic mode, any example to see if we can have a high dynamic range video mode that would be fantastic for a gh3.

@amateur , the G5 have moire but not GH2 :-) check color cards ...

or maybe same moire o_O ? they maybe called gh2.5 because it has same based sensor ?

look with tabs you wills judge

lumix GX1 : http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/articles/1328/panasonic-gx1-160iso-nrstan-big.jpg

G5 beat it in noise for sure but for moire look close to GH2 and G5 i'm confuse :/

@driftwood Does it support true multi aspects like Gh2?

It's confirmed. G5 uses Gh2 sensor but disabled the true multi aspects.

http://www.mu-43.com/f92/confirmed-panasonic-g5-uses-gh2-sensor-multi-aspect-disabled-32313/

Quick question, I'm thinking of getting this at release, but buying at Japan means there will be only japanese interface. Is there any simple hack enabling language in near future, or should I buy GX1 instead and use the other money on lenses?

So the RAW images on the GH2 aren't cropped? Hmm, I never knew that. Must add quite significantly to the file sizes.

I'm hoping that manual video control and multi-aspect can be added back in to the firmware by some intelligent folk. I don't really want to buy a used GH2 because the shutter count will probably be high, and I don't want to get a GH3 because it's massive. Perhaps getting an OM-D is the best bet for me, multi-aspect is cool and gets more out of your lenses, but stabilisation is also very nice to have.

@OASYS

Btw, you can just test GH3 raw from samples we got (see GH3 wiki page for link)

@OASYS

It is quite simple actually. The G5 is indeed the GH2 sensor with multi aspect ratio disabled. Here is the proof.

The GH2 has a max "Sensor photo detectors" of 18.3 megapixels. The G5 has the same. The GH3 has a max "Sensor photo detectors" of 17.2 megapixels. The G5 and GH2 simply have more pixels of the same size than the GH3 does.

The pixel size for all three cameras is actually equal. That maintains the exact same crop factor and resolution for the 4:3 mode. You can take an identical picture in 4:3 mode with all three cameras.

With 3:2 and 16:9 the G5 and GH3 give you cropped images with a 2.160x crop factor for 16:9 mode. I didn't calculate it for 3:2 mode.

They definitely could enable the multi aspect ratio feature on the G5 if they wanted to. As the GH3 stands right now it is not capable of being a multi aspect ratio camera.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/slrs/panasonic_dmcgh2

http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/slrs/panasonic_dmcg5

http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/slrs/panasonic_dmcgh3

The level profile of the Gh3 (profile High level 5) is much better than the G5 apart from the 1080p50/60 modes which appear identical.

Is G5 better than GH2?

When HDMI is connected and looking at external monitor, can we shoot 1080 50p ?

@kihlian The hi bitrate mov modes on the gh3 are High Profile level 5. However, G5 has comparable avchd 1080p50/60 modes to the gh3. Ill be running full tests nxt week when Im back from chile.

@driftwood Good to hear. After I saw the encoder perf on the GH3 test clips I was hoping someone would take a look at the G5 encoder perf.

@adventsam

If its like the G3 then you can lockdown the shutterspeed with the flicker reduction and works in video mode.

You have no controls over aperture (unless using a manual lens).iso though. I also found the AE lock goes auto after hitting record. AF lock works while recording.

You can adjust exposure (EV)..but iso and aperture (on panny lenses) will adjust in relation to it. So basically you only have some limited control on shutter speed.

It kind of reminds me of the Nikons d5100 :-D

I like the G5 (white one) shame no manual controls...may pick one up when cheap for the wife.

Actually i think that setting the shutter speed is sufficient for most tasks! Just use a variable ND filter to select the wanted aperture: Just switch to S mode, select 1/50 shutter speed (or whatever you have selected as flickr reduction option), half press the shutter to start metering and use the ND filter to select the aperture (while keeping iso at 160). If you now start to record a movie, it will use the selected aperture (because auto always tries to keep ISO low).

The only problem, which remains is the lack of AE lock. But this is probably something which could easily added with a firmware hack.

DxO has measured G5 sensor. So far it looks like it's the best Panasonic has ever released in M43 realm. Great b-cam for GH2, it even slightly outperforms its bigger brother in low-light.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/(appareil1)/816|0/(brand)/Panasonic/(appareil2)/793|0/(brand2)/Olympus/(appareil3)/677|0/(brand3)/Panasonic

You can capture whatever dynamic range you like within whatever bit depth you like. The two metrics have no bearing on one another.

Hoping that manual video control and multi-aspect can be enabled by some clever sort on this camera. Would that even be possible?

@OASYS

You assume perfectly linear sensitivity and no processing.
It can be not the case here.

In a 12bit Raw file, it should only have linear data so in principle the maximal DR is 12Ev. That's what I cannot understand.

It is wrong assumption. Data is not perfectly linear, and some processing is made for raw anyway.

@ http://www.personal-view.com/talks/profile/1650/OASYS "You're right. I assumed DxOmark measures the sensitivity of a sensor before any further processing such as gamma conversion. In a 12bit Raw file, it should only have linear data so in principle the maximal DR is 12Ev. That's what I cannot understand. (DR of G5 is 11.6Ev, that of EM-5 is 12.3Ev?)"

OASYS these numbers are the "Print DR" where Dxo theoretically calculates the DR not per pixel but after resampling 16Mp to 8Mp. This gives 1/2 stop increase. The per pixel DR is the "Screen DR" in our case 11.1 and 11.8 stops.

There is more to this....

Your assumption that raw files are linearly encoded is (almost) correct. I wrote (Almost) because there is a suspicion for some recent models (D7000, D800, D4) that the manufacturers started to use non linear data (at the brightest 1/3 stop). Some raw file researchers observed that the SNR curves which DxO provides don't exactly fit on the theoretical model .. thus the suspicion. But even so, they (the manufacturers) linearize the non linear data before they write the raw file so that all raw converters do their job on linear data... and in our case DxO measures are on linear (or maybe linearized) raw data.

Your assumption that a 12bit raw pixel limits the DR at 12 stops is wrong because per definition DR is Max_signal/noise. Well ... this is the so called "engineering DR", DxO uses a slightly different definition Max_signal/Level where SNR=1.
Keep in mind that noise is stochastic value and so it can be a fraction of the used unit. If noise could be zero DR could be infinite.... In our case (digital photo) there is always some "read noise" but even if in a magic way a manufacturer can eliminate it at zero, in a n-bit encoded raw there will exist the quantization noise which is the stdev of a uniform distribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantization_error and this equals to 0.29. So the max (engineering) DR that a n-bit file can hold is n+1.8 ..

http://forum.dxomark.com/index.php/topic,198.0.html

May I ask? As The G5 is about half the price of the GH3 and will share the same sensor and frame rates that are ideal Is there plans for a hack? If so will it be any time soon as this seems more appealing to buy than the GH2 due to the new improved MOS sensor and ergenomic (grip).

Hope someone can provide a G5 Raw file in 3:2 or 16:9 so we can see the possibility of multi-aspect function.

@8088

Yes, it would be great. A 16:9 Raw file and a short clip (MTS file) taken from the same scene would be enough. So we can also compare the angle of view and the pixels used for video and still mode.

Thanks @8088

Now it's confirmed. It turns out no luck. The exif shows:

Sensor width/height (16:9): GH2: 5208x2816 (17.2MB) G5: 4816x2608 (14.7MB) GX1: 4760x2592 (14.6MB)

Image size (16:9): GH2: 4985x2816 G5: 4652x2608 GX1:4597x2592

So it is restricted by the firmware. Also I checked the border beyond the image width. There're all junk pixels (see the right corner of the left picture). However, we can still see that the Raw file has larger field of view than that of video (right picture). The extra area should be for the lens correction.

@8088

So far I can tell that the firmware of G5 crops the Raw file from the very beginning. As you can see, the file size of G5 is also smaller than that of GH2. My feeling is that G5 actually uses different sensor from GX1/G3 because their image sizes are slightly different. So there's still hope to get the multi-aspect mode back with a hacked firmware. Maybe a complaining letter to panasonic can do some help as well.;-)

Thanks for your help again.

Cheers.

@LPowell I will run the test first thing tomorrow morning (central european time).

@8088 So with a manual lens it should work with only ISO changing. Did you try to press AE lock after you started recording?

@ LPowell Sorry, I meant "I set the ISO to AUTO". I really did the test the way you described. Setting ISO to AUTO doesn't help to lock the exposure. Probably the ISO/gain in video is always automatically adjusted anyway. And so is the exposure. There seems to be no way to fix the exposure. You can't even see what exposure the camera chooses, you can't compensate it while recording and you can't lock it. @ oscillian Pressing AE lock both before and during recording have no effect. I will do some tests with manual lenses later on. That might still be a good solution for more manual control.

@LPowell FYI Gf2/Gf3/Gx1 can't really lock the shutter speed with Flicker Reduction menu option. Sometimes the bodies changed ISO and shutter speed when the exposure is too low or too high.

@8088

Can the G5 take a still while shooting 1080p @ 60 FPS video? If so try this. Set the camera to take full size RAW images during video. Then set the shutter speed to what you want it to be, take a video and take a picture. The RAW file will have the settings that you set before you hit record. The question is "will the video use those settings as well.

@mpgxsvd Yes, you can take pictures when shooting video. There are two modes: Motion picture priority and Still picture priorities (see manual). Whichever I choose, the exposure settings for still pictures are never used by the video.

@mpgxsvcd Yes, with Still picture priority you can set the settings for the pictures you make during video recording. Except the aspect ratio will be fixed to 16x9.

Vitaliy_Kiselev, are there perspectives to add video manual control on G5 ?

I get the impression there aren't that many G5s in the wild, with very few people in this thread actually owning one. Is that true, have there been many offers to test patches? I'm kind of in the camp where I'd only be interested in the camera if it had the features removed from the GH2 re-enabled (and I'm also waiting to see what the EP5 looks like). I supposed it's possible that it will never build up the kind of critical mass to make it worth working on, if enough people think like me!

/negativity

I really hope the G5 catches on, or gets at least popular enough to do a hack. It's a really nice camera, but at the moment I feel like it has about the same videoquality as my hacked GF2... If what they say about having almost the same sensor as the GH2 is true, then this could become an awesome machine with a decent patch!

Bloody hell, only 50% of the cameras allotted for the deal were claimed! That was less than the camera costs in pounds (I am from the UK). You're all mad.

I hope there will be a patch soon or the G5, electronic shutter needs to be addressed, under certain circumstances it is useless. I have a USA version of the camera, but using it in Europe, and under some lighting conditions I have horizontal black bars on the pictures, because of the 60hz-50hz differences, and tis way it's useless.

I don't think that's something that could be fixed with a patch. A CMOS sensor does not update the whole image at once, but line by line. This is also the cause of the 'rolling shutter' effect in video capture. This is just a limitation of the hardware really. It is a nice option to have the electronic shutter for stealth shooting, but this is with the caveat that the shutter curtain is not perfect, so it can't be used in all situations unfortunately.

@ stacid

Great idea! Why didn't I think of that? I ran a quick test and it appears that, here in the Netherlands, the bars are gone when shooting at 1/50 and 1/100, whereas these bars are definitely there at 1/60 and 1/125. (unfortunately the camera has no 1/120 shutter speed)

ready to donate also.

You mean not any chance ever, or not in the near future? G5 is more capable camera than G3, and because of it's ergonomics, can be more powerfull if hacked... just asking.

I see. Just update this thread when donations needed :) BTW. is there any chance for G3 manual video control in the future, or the first hack covers all the modifications planned for it?

I'm really enjoying my recently bought G5. Ergonomics is much better compared to G3 imho. Sadly there's no external mic option. I'd be happy to test any G5 patches should they be released in the future

+1

... not to mention the greatly reduced size and weight of the G5. Until Panasonic addresses some of the hardware problems of the GH3 (especially the disappointing EVF, not to mention the moiré and aliasing that keeps cropping up in videos posted on the web), I feel it would be a more pressing priority for our community to develop a hack for the G5 permitting manual video control.

Maybe we should run around with little stickers that say GH3 Lite, and re-lable all G5's. I think then the masses would come begging for this hack =)

But seriously, yes, it seems to have better potential in some key areas! It also looks cooler than the GH3!! (especially in white IMHO). I wish I had the skills to do the hack, cause I hear a little voice crying out, hack me!!!!

And unlike the GH3 the G5 has a multi-aspect sensor waiting to be unlocked!

But G5 hasn't a mic input, or not?

"to find bugs" Bug is no/manual in video.

I had some time yesterday and played around with a G5 at a local shop. This was the first time I actually picked one up, and I was amazed at how light this little beast is. I haven't looked at the stats, but it seeemed lighter than the GF cameras to me ! Also it felt really really nice in the hand. I have big hands too, and although I would have liked it if my pinky finger fit on the grip, the ergonomics are really good and it was more comfortable than my GH2. The size was also smaller than I had realized. I WANT IT !

MP4 or AVCHD ? 50p output is only in [PSH] and [SH]

[Flicker Decrease] affects the shutter speed, not the framerate.

In [Flkr Decrease] - 50 is lost every second video frame !!! Try it yourself record video [Flkr Decrease]-50, and then look at the video editor that comes with the video frames

@AltairZ

Check previous page of this topic.

Friends, please check out one important thing:

When you turn the VIDEO - FPH mode you get to actually write in Progressive(30p) or Interlaced(30i). According to the instruction must be progressive mode(30p), but my video editor shows that interlace(30i). What the hell ???

stacid, please check when you record VIDEO -AVCHD FPH mode what is the format of the video file you have Progressive(30p) or Interlaced(30i). Should be Progressive(30p)..., but I have Interlaced(30i) ! This is a bug!

I look metaInfo in Media Player Classic - HC (http://mpc-hc.org/)

stacid, I refer to a different video mode, not AVCHD PSH (60p), but AVCHD FPH (30p).

In the AVCHD PSH (60p), I also do not have problems - scan type : Progressive - ок. But in the AVCHD FPH (30p), I have problems! - scan type : Interlaced (must be Progressive).

P.S. Available recording modes in Panasonic G5: [AVCHD] [PSH]-1920k1080 60p; [FSH]-1920k1080 60i; [FPH]-1920k1080 30p; [SH]-1280k720 60p;

Vitaliy_Kiselev,

Just wanted to say hi and thank you for your work. I also wanted to say I am a new G5 owner and wanted to keep this thread going. I would like to respectfully request a hack for the G5. Thanks again.

Brian

Been testing this camera..and it´s great..if Vitaliy" ever sometime would hack this camera I will absolute donate ..It has better IQ than Nex7 in video..it has 1080 50p and a GH2 sensor..the evf is better than nex ..and the lcd sharper..no aliasing ...no overheating..

Hi! Just another G5 user, hoping for just the basic manual video hack some day ...

How to remove hot pixels in video? "Pixel refresh" doesn't help.

Just adding my support for a hacked G5 software, happy to donate etc.

Would love to see the hacked G5 as well. Happy to contribute.

Guys, as I said, no firmware exist, plus I really have no time.

pretty silly firmware update is available

1.Correction of wording on [Motion Picture] menu

Correct the wording "60p/60i/30p" of AVCHD frame rate on [Rec Quality] menu to "50p/50i/25p". This update is for PAL broadcast regions only, and you don't need this update if wording is already "50p/50i/25p

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/index2.html

Vitaliy, Are you interesting this ?

I do not have G5 and have no plans yet. May be in future.

I do not have G5

Vitaliy, if the G5-community is ready for "crowd-funding", would you be able to find time to extend the PTool? Thanks!

@ihunter

Vitaliy, if the G5-community is ready for "crowd-funding", would you be able to find time to extend the PTool? Thanks!

Let's move forward with GH3 and existing bodies first.

which one would be better for an entry camera for a beginner in photography, the g5 or the canon t3i? thanks so much!

Hopefully if G3 is eventually hacked then a future G5 hack could be easier. I just picked up a used G5 for around $200. Depending on what features could be added, a hacked G5 could approach the GH2 for less than half the cost.

@trevmar

All such posts go to Deals topics only. We have such deal info present for quite a time :-)

Very beautiful skin-tone! Seriously, JPEG out from the camera really great, better than GH2.

From a technical standpoint how different would the hacking process for G5 be different than the others already done? GH2, GF1 etc. Is there any R&D notes that could be leveraged and shared for others to attempt? Seems the potential of price/performance for G5 would be appealing to many.

Now that GH4 has been announced and on its way..

Could we at least try the Manual Video Controlling features found in G3/GX1 Cfm? I'm starting to wonder if Panasonic is threatening Mr.Vitality with a lawsuit...... I mean, if that's not the case, a lot, a lot of G5 users(including myself) are ready to contribute.

sakiskoz i like your movies =)

You might know this but G5 has the capability to output the liveview via AV, although it stops when you start the recording(not sure if that's because processor cannot handle the task) I haven't got an AV cable for my G5 so cannot confirm but i've read pressing the trash button a couple of seconds turns the feature on.

to lock the exposure on a G5 you want to enable the mode iA+ and once to turn the wheel. now you can shoot against the light without reducing exposure. it is a pity that there is no manual control. but I'm still happy. :)

@gene, i'm considering getting a G5 and I wonder your opinion of the G5 auto ISO and how it handles for you. It's my guess that so long as you can keep shutter locked and using Manual lens control Aperture, the only thing to consider is how well the G5 adjusts ISO. What's your experience so far?

@gene, I actually don't mind the limitations of the G5. Still a very good camera for very little money. I've been on a mission to find the best and cheapest cams out there and the G5 is one of them. There are a lot of bargains out there that people overlook cuz of all the new fancy cameras out there. I still use a GH1 and I have a Canon 50D with Magic Lantern RAW. Just bought a Sony NEX 3N for under $150.00. I've been learning a lot about how best to use these cheap cameras. I just missed getting a G5 for under $200.00. If I see another opportunity i'll snatch one up.

@Aria, you're right. G5 is very good camera for good price.

I didn't mention... I am completely satisfied with this camera, and I have no regrets about not buying the G6 for double+ $$$. As an all-around camera, this is perfect and priced to jump back into M4/3 (I was an early GH1 user).

Nice to read that the G5 is still being loved - a couple of months back I bought one from Panasonic referb in the UK with the 14-42 PZ X lens and think it was a real bargain at £295. I'm using the Panasonic lens adapters with it, a fisheye, wide-angle and macro also bought from the referb shop for a bargain £109 and are great fun. The (probably) less useful tele adapter which only cost me £29 new from some ebay store works fine but is a bit something and nothing. The whole kit fits in a tiny bag and weighs next to nothing, which is what I really wanted!

One other point to make about the G5. People forget that the G5 has the same sensor as the G6. They both have the same DR. The G5 just has fewer frame rates with no 24p. It's a bit limited but for the price it's a nice little camera.

I'm hoping to do some filming with the G5 over the next few months. It's that time of year to get some lovely fall footage. I'm going to shoot and see just what I can do with this camera.

Yeah it would be GREAT if we had a hack for the G5. It's so strange how it's the ugly stepchild of the Lumix cameras. Not many ever talk about it. Pany kicked it to the curb real fast.

I still use my GH1 more than the G5 at this point. I'm just so used to the GH1 and it's 24p so it's just easier right now. I wish there was a way to get the firmware of the G6 into the G5. In any event i'll keep pressing on to find other ways to get the best out of the G5.

Any news about hack plans for G5 or it will be "unhacked" forever?

Hello. My first post here.

I've had a G6 that I have been using for video for almost a year now and have been loving it. I picked up a used G5 on Craigslist for a second camera and have a bit of a stupid question. I am reading that the G5 does not offer manual video mode. I was under the impression that when I set the dial to M that I am setting the aperture and shutter speeds and ISO in video, but now I'm understanding that this isn't the case. Can someone tell me what is going on when videoing in M mode? Both with manual lenses and the kit lens? What can I control when recording video?

Thank you!

@Aria. Ah, ok I see the anti flicker setting. That sets the shutter speed at 120 which should be good at actually double the frame rate of 60 I'm using. So that does solve the shutter speed problem. Thanks for the tip!

I'm mainly using the G5 as a backup second cam for multi-cam interviews, having different lenses ready to go, mounted on a Glidecam etc. I look forward to seeing your video if you get around to posting it. Thanks again.

@kingneo23, there is no chance to do so at least until Vitaliy hack G5. It is unlikely that the hack will be released soon and without no news for almost 3 years from the latest PTOOL 3.66D release, I am very pessimistic that there will be a new hack.

@yskunto Thanks for your answer! It is nice to know that at least it would be possible if the hack where here.

@Molehill, have you tried first setting the Flicker Decrease setting on page 3 of the Motion Picture settings Menu? Once you do this you will lock the Shutter. After that from my experience the camera will automatically adjust the gain in order to try and get the right exposure, but it's a rather smooth speed so that it's not very jarring as it changes.

If you use manual lenses it's even better since you can then control Aperture and then the camera does an auto Iso thing for you. In most situations that works fine for me.

Also really appreciative of any other tips or advice that anyone may have in regards to filming with the lumix g5 as this seriously was here in Finland the only interchangeable lens camera I could Afford so an upgrade is completely out of the question.....looking to do some videos for my music at first but hopefully can afford the switch to a gh2 before trying my hand at some short films, (in the hope a stable hack is still available) in the near future :)

@Aria, Thanks will give it a try :-)

Is it possible to use external mic with G5 anyhow?

Looks like its impossible to start recording video immediately after switching camera on. Its saying 'Please wait ...' for a few seconds. Very annoying. Can it be fixed somehow? Is it the same in G6/G7?

@flyaway, why is it so important that the camera be ready to record as soon as you turn it on? I think it's just a slower camera. It didn't seem to take longer than a couple of seconds on mine. SanDisk Ultra Plus 40MB/s SDHC U1 Class 10.

I've gotten used to the need to double hit the record button on my G5's. It's a bad design but it's not the end of the world.