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Sony NEX-VG900 Full Frame camera topic
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  • Vitaliy, as about recording format, is that camera new or better? The E-mount lenses are remotable, so you can always work with he same lenses, no need to discuss that. Full frame with so high resolution needs to be recalculated to 1920x1080. Is there something wrong about what I wrote? Just to have camcorders for filming and cameras for photographing? Or was I uncorrect about the SOHXRFMU128 flash modul? Correct me please and I wil be glad to learn something new and apologise. But by my opinion that flash modul is for nothing. But of course, this is VG900 thema here. So back to VG900, is it realy so big problem to have 4:2:2 in camera for 3000? If it is possible by it´s hardware? OK, even 7500USD FS900 does not offer it (internal rec). It is not always about the money. I just don´t want to have any external recorder connected to camera, if such small thing like Black Magic Camera can have SSD HDD slot. Of course I understand the theory, there will always have to be something, which they upgrade so we would by newer model. And as my theory about number of pix for FULL HD, I had SONY FS100, EOS Mark III and D800... SONY is the best as regarding to moire problem. Is it not because of pixel number?

  • i did some calculations and it seems all 35mm full frame lenses will work without vignette. with new designed adapters having the largest internal diameter they probably will have 41.3mm diameter wich is the diagonal of a 36x20.25mm 16x9 full frame sensor. so the light will travel from the lens exit pupil to the sensor without being blocked by the mount or by the adapter.

  • @lolodigital

    This one is true, believe me :-)

  • sonyalpharumors.com write many things ... and many things came often false... according to me, FF 3K$ camcorder have no sense. this will definitely be a rumor...

  • @guzak

    Do not jump from one thing to the next and combining different complains. You can't ask anything from any camera, you can just work hard to get money for one that comply to your wishes. If you can't buy one you like it is not problem with camera manufacturers, it is your problem, either problem if exaggerated wishes, or problem of no money.

  • this great article explains the e-mount can handle a full frame sensor, but some full frame lenses will vignette due to adaptor internal diameter to fit the e-mount and due to some lenses have some amount of telecentricity design and big exit pupil. http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2012/08/19/should-nex-go-full-frame/ Will the fastest lenses from 1.2 to 2.0 vignette? no answer at this moment, but probably will.

  • Vitaliy, I don´t think it is out of date for long long time, until there will be camera like SONY FS-100 with internal ND filter (which SONY FS-700 will be, but for twice price) and some CF card recording to 10-bit colour (or any other ,,SONY friendly,, card). Or, correct me please, if I want so much for the camera released close to the year 2013.

  • Sony - stupid stupid stupid.... there is nothing new and better comparing to FS-100. Why Full frame sensor for video, if one pixel of that XY megapixel is smaller then previous cameras has?

    Keep the level of your comments, please. Do not bring shit you heard somewhere and do not understand. All this "give us low resolution sensors" shit is just old, out of date for long long time.

  • Sony - stupid stupid stupid.... there is nothing new and better comparing to FS-100. Why Full frame sensor for video, if one pixel of that XY megapixel is smaller then previous cameras has? 1920 x 1080 = 2Megapix. If they should make a very very PRO sensor for video, than it should have just exact pixel nomber needed for the final video format (No photo options, which makes camcorders just HOME VIDEO camera). Why don´t they make some sensor with 3840x2160=8-9 Megapix so they would use individual RGB pixels for Full HD and super sensitive sensor with internal ,,in camera medium,, recording to at least 4:2:2 colour??? Nothing new is delivered by those new camcorders... please, open your eyes people! For example the flash modul for SONY FS-100 is absolutly useless, as it offers only the same possibility to record than SD card http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/672424-REG/Sony_HXR_FMU128_HXR_FMU128_Flash_Memory_Unit.html... SONY just spent a lot of time and money to develop something that they just ,,locked by software,, so you cannot record any better format on it then AVCHD 4:2:0. And, it takes some space in the camera that could be used for something else, because nobody will ever by that modul. Also SONY FS-700 will have the space for that Flash modul, but.... the same story. You will be aloved to record only the same AVCHD as SD card offers. Great, SONY! No internal 4:2:2 in the body for 7500USD :-) :-) :-)

  • It'll probably do large stills like it's little brother so no AA filter either.

  • so there will more than likely be line skipping or pixel binning

    Either one or another :-) I think it'll be normal binning.

  • Well this is interesting. I think it'll be a DSLR sensor tho like the NEX-EA50UH so there will more than likely be line skipping or pixel binning. I'll probably pass on this model, but the generation after might be intriguing.

  • Most guys also forget that this is camcorder, so it'll have both EVF and LCD. And looking at EVF and LCDs in top NEX cameras they must be quite good.

    On 5D all you have is just fixed LCD on the back.

  • @fatpig

    I have same question, but in reverse.

    Do you see any reason to get 5D after it'll be available?

  • Who would buy this over a 5D?

  • Only if money is involved then well, might just be fine to think, but, waiting for the right moment, just comes in the moment, feel it and buy as needed. Make no plans.

  • Apefos, I had that feeling this morning (specially if you are in Brazil/MG)

  • It seems it is time to wait a few years to buy something new. to avoid something better and less expensive to come after a purchase.