GH2 driftwood hack in shootout with Canon C300

DrDave

The Nikon was sort of Blah--also a surprise. But the 5N, unacceptable. Dear Sony, get help.

Rerbreg

Yeah, I also just looked up the video from Mr. Bloom ...and was shocked :)

Ian_T

I was not suprised by the 5N. From the time I first seen its video I knew it was way off (in terms of resolution when compared to the GH-2). But the Nikon suprised the heck out of me. I thought it would have looked a whole lot better than what it did. Outside of it's known colored moire and aliasing issues I always dug its moving pictures. But in retrospect I think maybe that had more to do with the individual pieces that I seen shot and nothing to do with the camera.

Mr_Moore

The GH2 footage in that latest shootout is simply astounding. I honestly couldn’t believe my eyes. The biggest surprise came from the AF100, though (albeit to me the highlights seem a tad blown out).

Gabel

@DrDave: Same here! The first stuff I saw from it looked really good, but here it was rather dull to be honest.

After this I can proudly stick with my GH2. Oh and @PhilipBloom, nice to see you around this forum!

DrDave

I have to say I am surprised at the Nex 5N--mushy and intrusive stair-stepping.

Butt

sry - i mean

> in post to make the conversion from 420 to 444 . . . 5DtoRGB . . . etc.<<br />
this is bullshit: 420 remain 420 forever

rozroz

@magnifico
thanks.
well we'll have to suffer some color banding for 700$ :(

bwhitz

Oversampling is a great thing. ;) I've always thought that the GH2 might actually resolve a true 1080 lines under the right situations.

magnifico

@rozroz
just googled: canon c300 is mpeg2 4:2:2 50 mb/s

magnifico

4:2:0 -> "nuts" (PB words for GH2) for details :-)
may because pany (+ vk hack) did some good work...

rozroz

@butt-
but all of these cameras are 4:2:0, no?
what can you do?
what do you prefer, 4:2:0 for 700$? or for 15000$?

Butt

@all

"papalapap" (BullShit) 4:2:0 remains 4:2:0 forever . . .

shrigg

GH2 Driftwood FTW! Despite his on-camera comments about card speed and L mode, I suspect Philip was able to shoot the GH2 in H mode since he titled the clip 176mbps. If that was the 70mbps low mode I'm truly amazed.

driftwood

Philip used Quantum v5. He's just tweeted me to say he did indeed use the H setting for the one in the film.

Brian_Siano

Does anyone know which firmware version Bloom was using wit the Driftwood hack?

I mainly want to know if the Driftwood hack works under firmware 1.1.

EOSHD

GH2 did well here and although I am sure it will get buggered in the low light test by the C300, remember the secret weapons for low light shooting on the GH2. 1... F0.95 on the Voigtlander. 2... Avoid under exposure at all costs even if you have to ramp the ISO up to 3200 and the shutter to 1/25, do it. When the exposure is OK the GH2 can do nice results even at ISO 12,800 with a nice fine grain.

Nikon's video will get better, the Expeed 3 chip in the J1 isn't too bad, although it doesn't compare to the GH2 it is an improvement for video on the D7000 for sure.

magnifico

I know this part of test is about details, but sorry I couldn't help my self from looking at dynamic range...
But i think here that every analysis of the videos should be welcome.
It is interesting to know how people are perceiving images.
May be clipped highlights, some lack of dr have some "bad" consequence on details in the brightest parts...

Even it is "unscientific" it is worth to give some argumentation about the initial conditions for each shooting. I think Pb does this shootout with his own means so no blame here ok? just some warning about our way for commenting these shots :-)

chauncy

in the straight resolution detail test, the gh2 absolutely smoked most of the cameras. Even Bloom had to stop and say "this is nuts" when staring at the detail rich image.

It wasn't even pixel peeping, it was obvious.

The fact he did this at the low quantum setting is a huge verification of all the work driftwood and V and all of us have been doing.

I doubt the gh2 will do as well in the upcoming tests. We are know there can be color tinting issues. It will hold its own.

Ian_T

@magnifico
You do understand he clearly mentions that this was a unscientific test? That's why he made mention in the video that the cloud conditions were consistently changing. It was not a dynamic range test but only a resolution test..so...clipped highlights are not really the focus here.

magnifico

Considering condition of test it is a little pitty since there are clouds and light is not the same for all these shots. The force of zacuto tests is "same condition" with girls doing same things in front of amera. Pb, you need more tripods and geek helpers :-)
I pp and noticed some good details for gh2 at the wall on the left compared to fs100.
I noticed some clipped highlight for gh2: see the little house and the red letters...
My 0.002 $

magnifico

@PhilipBloom
thx for this funny and serious shootout :-)
I am waiting for low light tests.

ps: please give Driftwood a call for him to explain how to avoid low settings for gh2.
hmm razor, good idea :-)
thx pany vk! pb

B3Guy

yes, lowlight the GH2 seems to do alright, but color is where it can get awful bad if you're not careful. Decidedly green in most cases.

@PhillipBloom: http://www.amazon.com/Boker-Boker-Damascus-Straight-Razor/dp/B00192T88S

sohus

@PhilipBloom
I can understand you missed a little detail. Looking forward to the skintones and low-light tests.

WhiteRabbit

Wow, GH2 pocket rocket! (thus far)

In that regard, thanks to @Vitaliy_Kiselev for PTool 3.63d which provides the magic to extend the GH2's capabilities, and @driftwood for providing one of the amazing patches that are being shared on this forum. Cheers @PhilipBloom

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