GH2 driftwood hack in shootout with Canon C300

chauncy

Along with canon c300 and others. Check Mr. Bloom's site.
http://philipbloom.net/2011/12/15/christmas-shootout/

driftwood

he has v5

Sage

This will be great. ++

Sage

Very impressed w/ v5, all around.

proaudio4

This should be very interesting. Much respect for Philip Bloom.

WhiteRabbit

awesome!

SuperSet

Sorry for the slide thread drift but I didn't see Quantum v5 in the 'all patches in one thread' thread. Is it listed by another name?

DrDave

I'm rooting for Driftwood. Go! Go!

sohus

I miss the RED Epic in this test. One week after the RED soap Bloom gets a C300 loaner. How convenient. Good to see the GH23 driftwood patched in there. Exciting!

rozroz

looking forward !

kazuo

I see why he has to return the Epic. But that's case closed. On a more constructive note, finally someone with a viable alternative to some Zacuto bullshit shootout

PixCanFly

Unleash the GH2!
Anyone reckon the result will affect camera sales?

driftwood

@FGCU Philip had his Voit 0.95 when I installed it for him.

driftwood

@SuperSet its still in Low GOP thread as its in BETA test stages, looking to produce final Quantum version once the 25p is unleashed. Then it'll go in patches thread.

driftwood

The one worry I had (and Ive told him) is his measly Transcend 32GB card he had at the time... Ive advised him to get a decent 64Gb card for any of his cameras supporting the sdxc format.

Meierhans

I must admit that I am really looking forward for the results.. but then again I don´t mind if nobody beside us knows what this little gem can do. No need to prove, I am happy with the results and that counts. ;)

Oedipax

Ack, if he's using the Transcend cards then it's a possible problem for sure.

NickBen

I have the 64GB Transcend SDXC which is perfect for low bitrate and stock settings, but I'd still stick with SanDisk Extreme Pro for any paid work or shootouts...

bubba

Can't wait for the politics

fatpig

I would love some professional guy just writing that the gh2 is "good" compared to the canons, to show clients before the shoot.

No_SuRReNDeR

Phillip Bloom already knows whats up...he has one. All you have to do to see how awesome the GH2 is ...use it.

Shaveblog

@fatpig Yep, all clients need to feel better about what gear you use on their gig is a clipping from a shooterblogger they've never heard of, saying he likes the GH2. All the tension in the room will evaporate, all the preconceived notions about what a pro video camera looks like will fall by the wayside. Just by showing them Bloom's comments, your stock in their eyes will skyrocket.

Me? I'm printing up dozens of Bloom's GH2 comments and having them laminated, so I can hand them out to every prospective client. At the bottom in boldface I'll put: "SEE????? PHILLIP BLOOM SAYS MY CAMERA IS GOOD!!!!! SEE????"

Now to just choose the spinnaker for my yacht and the supermodels to cavort upon its deck.

brianluce

Shaveblog is right. Phil Bloom doesn't even have much credibility in video forums, as he's known as a guy with an opinion for sale. I've seen him endorse products he hasn't even used. So to drop his name to a client? A better reference would be something like "This cam was used to film part of the latest Speilberg flick" or whatever. Better yet, just put your GH2 in a cage and attach some gizmoids to make it look cool.

driftwood

Steady on running down people there @brianluce. He has a lot of credibility amongst video communities - but in the end its just his opinion - like yours, like mine. You can agree or disagree - youve heard of him yeah? Whether you value his opinions or not he writes a good blog and keeps us informed - he doesn't force you to agree.

I do know he buys all his main gear,and he's not rich, he took out a second mortgage on that RED gear.
If he has an endorsemen for other products which he likes, he's not forced to use it, I mean, fair do's... I can think of many a sportstar, musician, VIP, etc... who have been asked to endorse products they probably don't use or know nothing about... I doubt any of Philip's endorsed products are bad. He's not just a journo afterall, he's a filmmaker first and foremost. And he loves cameras. Don't see much wrong with that.
And anyone can write a blog, right?

PS I totally agree with @No_SuRReNDeR

EOSHD

He has a certain smooth charm about him but all you need to do is to meet him and realise that the passion he has for this stuff is real and as strong as any of us. Then you can forget all about politics and opinions, because at the end of the day that - and talent - is all that really matters.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@driftwood
@EOSHD

Keep it about the topic title.
All this discussions about PB do not have any use.

shrigg

+1 @No_SuRReNDeR
+1 @driftwood
+1 @EOSHD

I'm very excited to see how Quantum v5 fares. I value Philip's real-world field tests that have true merit for us shooters. Camera geek and shooter first... talented, dedicated and funny. What's not to like about Mr. Bloom? Maybe his opinion isn't "just like everone else's" but that's what I appreciate. If we all liked the same stuff we wouldn't be individuals and life as we know it would be extremely boring.

driftwood

@VK True

shrigg

@VK Roger.

Roberto

Friday, 16 December 2011 at 9:29:15 PM GMT
Well no news is good news - unless somebody forgot the storage cards/battery charger. ;-)
It's well & truly the day after "tomorrow" here.
Reminds me of a Petrol station in my childhood which had a permanent sign,
"Free Air Today
Free Petrol Tomorrow"

Roberto

All of which really means "Shoot-out Tomorrow" is a brave promise to make. When I taught media I was continually astonished at the novel ways in which students returned from a shoot - empty handed.

DrDave

The fact that he is cross testing models from different manufacturers shows that he has an independent streak. He also seems to just purchase the cams in some cases. I'm a fan of his work, but I enjoy watching testing done by any and all. Very interested to see the results of this one.

jfro

Looks like he has a Sandisk Class 45/mbs 32gb card. So guessing he shot on H mode. He published all the cards he shot on and their was no GH2 card, but he said he missed a couple and reposted. Hears hoping it's up sooner than later.

Roberto

@DrDave
+1
-and it makes for extremely good media, generating revenue in the conventional manner - from advertising.
Such a break from advertorials or opinion-driven comparisons or, piecemeal trials.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@DrDave

I already asked to not discuss PB.
Anyone has some opinion about him (mine is very bad). It is ok. But this topic is not about it.

Shaveblog

FWIW I admire Phillip Bloom and have learned a great deal from his blog and work. He's a hugely talented shooter, has a great eye, and I'm satisfied he's navigating the waters of personal opinion, sponsorship, and editorial about as cleanly as one could hope for. My only point earlier was that it's silly to think that his or anyone else's published blog opinions about a camera would somehow validate a camera's legitimacy to any client who wasn't already enough of a DSLR geek they'd be shooting the job themselves.

rigs

Do not disuss Philip Bloom? Isn't he the reason for this topic in the first place.
And the name of this site is....

No_SuRReNDeR

DELETE ME PLEASE !

COde 401!! i CANT DELETE THE PICS...

Vitaliy_Kiselev

>Do not disuss Philip Bloom?

Yep.

>Isn't he the reason for this topic in the first place.

No. Reason is completely different.

rigs

really.
Sorry I thought that the fact that he is doing the test not you or I, had some merit in the discussion. No need to go any further on this

lolo

there are some pics up on bloom´s site!
and the gh2 compared to the c300 has artifacts (very noticeable on the trees)

No_SuRReNDeR

@lolo... they are jpgs --- keep that in mind...

lolo

of course, but assuming that those images were rendered at the same quality they are still a valid comparison for image compression, and the gh2 has more artifacts,

EOSHD

So which patch did you install on the GH2 in the shootout @driftwood? Is it 70Mbit AVCHD i-frame? I'd like to give it a spin as well.

Currently putting GH2 up against Sony A65 in my own shootout... So far it is winning :)

Oedipax

@EOSHD, it's @driftwood's latest Quantum v5 (technically still in beta), the ~150Mbit intra version, assuming Bloom shot H mode. If not, even L mode is 100Mbit :)

EOSHD

Bloom's caption of the GH2 screen grab in the updated blog post says 70Mbit GH2 hack. Just wondering

Oedipax

Hmm, the plot thickens then.

proaudio4

Very odd.
I realize it's about dynamic range, but he chose to blow the clouds out on the GH2. Also, looking at the same shot on the C300, it appears he shot this during "magic hour". Of course the highlights look better, not to mention the warmer color temp at that lower sunset. I wish he did the same for the GH2. Also what's with 70mb/s ? Where did this come from? I thought Quantum was 154Mb/s.

I'd like to see real tests where all the cameras see the same subjects under the same lighting.

brianluce

Very odd.
I realize it's about dynamic range, but he chose to blow the clouds out on the GH2. Also, looking at the same shot on the C300, it appears he shot this during "magic hour". Of course the highlights look better, not to mention the warmer color temp at that lower sunset. I wish he did the same for the GH2. Also what's with 70mb/s ? Where did this come from? I thought Quantum was 154Mb/s.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The prosecution rests...

Oedipax

I recognize these kinds of tests are just about always lose-lose from an audience complaint point of view, but, like, is it really too much to ask for the images to be KIND OF similarly exposed and KIND OF shot under similar light conditions/time of day/etc?

But all we're seeing is a couple jpegs at this point, so maybe the full thing will be more enlightening. Let's hope.

lolo

but, we can surely be looking at gradations on smooth surfaces, noise, macroblocking and other artifacts from this test.

even though at the moment at least (it is incomplete) it seems that the color profile was set to favor the saturation on the canon to make it look more atractive

but i think is worth it still

...assuming that he will eventully post the settings used on each camera, like iso, film mode, lens, aperture, etc..

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