So if EOSHD is right, that means that the new mode is ONLY for PAL users and there is no change for any other users.

No MP4 or 422 for us I suppose.

Even professor X would struggle with RAW

Personally I am also hot after 'anything' that gets 422 out of this cam.

My list (if anyone at Panasonic is listening)- (ps: we will all buy 5 GH2's if you do everything below)

1) HDMI *clean* output- inc. exteli
2) PAL
3) Internal MJPEG or MP4 422 recording

(That is seriously the end of my demands- no crazy 4k or RAW stuff- just simple stuff now- the three points above would change the world of cameras seriously!)

Single handedly every production house could then buy GH2's as B-C-D cams without issues whatsoever!

Think about the revenue Panasonic! Just think!

(also if VK fixed HDMI I believe he would probably be able to retire with all the donations!) :-D

1080i PSF is the exact same thing as 1080p @ 25 or 30 FPS depending on PAL or NTSC. There is no deinterlacing required at all for PSF. If they give us 1080i/25 PSF then all PAL users should rejoice. That is what you have been waiting for.

I don't want to cheer before actually using it, but --- Weeehooo!!

Confirmed Panasonic bring 25p http://eoshd.tumblr.com/post/12634726976/gh2-25p
and progressive segmented frame http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_segmented_frame

@ alcomposer - thank you for the hints - apparently on the GX-1 continuous recording exceeding 4GB is not possible when recording MP4, yet it can do upwards of 70min in one take in AVCHD.

If the (speculative) new mp4 mode doesn't span then I can't see it being much use to me. Nevertheless, I can't understand why it shouldn't - is it really more difficult to implement MP4 clip spanning or is it just about market segmentation? Can the GX1 span both AVCHD and MP4?

> this question comes from mr Peder Fylling Maele

small world. I appreciate the "mr"

I'd just add to the translation that "slappt" means more closely "Released" than "Made". I point this out since if it was "made" that may not mean it's released. They could be holding on to the update for some reason.

But he infers that the update is out there.

Of course released could mean released to some internal panasonic group not the public.

So we can conjector away. This is all taking an inordinate amount of time to get to the public I think. And who knows who this guy is anyway?

I Try to do my best for a better translation ;-) These statements from Mac Berggren on AKAM.NO are to the 25p question very clear.. I hope he is right!! See the link to norwegian above and here
http://www.akam.no/artikler/panasonic_svarer_deg_akkurat_naa/103535#nm_5555

GH2 holdes tilbake?
GH2 is limited in software?

Spørsmål fra Peder Fylling Mæle:
this question come from mr Peder Fylling Maele:

Det er mange som påstår at Panasonic bevisst holder DMC-GH2 tilbake fra å utnytte sitt fulle potensiale, for å unngå å skade salget av AF100. Det skal du sleppe å kommentere, men jeg har et par relaterte spørsmål:

Many people suppose that Panasonic limits the performance of the GH2 not to harm the sales of the AF100. This You do not need to answer, but I have 2 related questions:


1 - Hvorfor ingen 1080p25 i PAL-land?!
Why no 1080p25 i PAL-countries?

2 - Hvorfor er det så problematisk å utnytte HDMI-utgangen til å hente ut et renere signal enn vanlig 24mbps AVCHD (422 ukomprimert) ?
Why is it problematic to get clean HDMI out better than the usual AVCHD 24mbps?

Svar: Answers:

Hej Peder och tack för dina frågor. ( Greatings)

1 - Vi har nyligen släppt en uppdatering till GH2 som ger den 25p. Det var en stark request från våra kunder då vi introducerade kameran och nu kan du snart ladda ner uppdateringen via vår hemsida. Vi har helt enkelt varit säkra på att 24p skulle ersätta 25p behovet men har blivit varse om att det ikke är så. :)
1 - We just made an update for the GH2 which will implement the 25p. This was a strong demand from our costumers at the time we did introduce this camera, and soon you can download this software update on our homepage. We where sure that the 24p would substitute the need of 25p, but we learned this was NOT the case ;-)

2 - När det gäller fråga Nr 2 så vet jag att det finns många som vill experimentera och vi har som du säger olika produkter för olika användare, där GH2 trots allt kostar under 10.000kr och är inte egentligen riktad till semi-pro användare. Och då ska den vara så enkel att operera som möjligt. Men som du ser så lyssnar vi på våra användare och förstår att det är något som efterfrågas - men jag har tyvärr inga besked jag kan ge nu på hur det kommer att lösas.
2 - I know there are many people experimenting and we have as you know different products for different users, thats why the GH2 is affordable ( <10000 Nkr) and is not aimed for the semi-pro users. And so it has to be as simple to operate as possible. But as you see, we listen to our costumers and understand this is a feature which is demanded- but I have no message to give now how this can be solved.<br />
Besvart: 8. nov 2011 16:57

@mrbill

Please post a link directly to his quote.

I've dropped Panasonic Germany a mail asking if we'd get 10bit etc at all.
Not expecting any honest answer but the German support is quite cooperative so can't hurt to ask, eh? :D