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  • @markr041 Do I understand you well and do you say here that the 14-42 X PZ OIS works with the BMPCC? and that the old version 14-45 OIS stabilization via the hardware switch does not? Can people confirm this?

    From what I know the 14-140's stabilization works (thanks GMC), if this is the case also the 14-45's stabilization should actually work. If the 14-42 X PZ's stabilization would work this would be really great ..... but you write that you are fooled.... so it does not? Can people confirm this?

    By the way, Andrew Reid reports that the old (4/3 not M4/3) Leica Lumix 14-50 2.8-3.5 stabilization works well: http://www.eoshd.com/content/11509/8-cinema-dng-shots-blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-raw. I personally like this lens a lot.

    @nomad can you maybe supply the link to your seller/the actual 5,6" monitor you bought, many of these Chinese products look very similar... however they are unfortunately often different under the hood.....

  • Hi guys, here is another night test using the Voigtländer Nokton @F1 I then graded in Resolve and did the cut in Premiere Pro. Thanks for watching and comment if you like!

  • Wow, I am very happy with the BMPCC so far - I did some tests against my GH2 (hacked) and the BMPCC has about 2.5 - 3 stops more in the highlights, and about 1 more in the darks (depending on the ISO of course as this is a dual gain sensor - if you shoot at 200 you do not see so much of a difference). Amazing what images you can pull off. Regarding IS, my 14-140 kit lens works (IS) and also focusing works OK (better than what Bloom has posted - maybe the new firmware had some improvements there). The thing which needs to be remembered, the IS becomes active only after record has started (to save battery) - it then needs another 2 -3 seconds until the image is stabilized.

  • Posted some photos of the TILTA rig and more thoughts into the TILTA professional rigs topic:

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4384/tilta-professional-rigs-cages-ff#Item_17

    ** updated with unboxing and assembly video.

  • its not the camera at fault here, the rule of thumb as I remember it from my long ago 135 (35mm FF) days was use a shutter speed of 1/focal length to avoid camera shake. These days we probably need to use 1/3(FocalLength) to accommodate crop factor

    This rule apply mostly for still photo :-) You can set very small shutter speed and get horrible result in video.

  • PS: A steady hand or a good rig helps immensely.

  • My point exactly Mr Kiselev, its not the camera at fault here, the rule of thumb as I remember it from my long ago 135 (35mm FF) days was use a shutter speed of 1/focal length to avoid camera shake. These days we probably need to use 1/3(FocalLength) to accommodate crop factor and also convert shutter speed to shutter angle but the point is it isn't the camera at fault it's just a factor of the physics involved.

    At the risk of repeating what many have said before me - the camera is just a light proof box with a sensor!

  • What did people do before IS was commercially available???

    Used big cameras and rigs. It helps :-)

  • @Trumpetman - What did people do before IS was commercially available??? I am beginning to think "Modern Day" camera operators must have awful drinking problems and constantly suffer the DTs... I am not going to say anymore on the subject. shakes head

  • @trumpetman: I am one of those who was shocked by the shakiness, and not because I was unaware of the IS issue: I did not use the 14-42mm "kit" Lumix (which I know has no IS that works with the BMPCC). I used the 14-42 Vario X Lumix, which on the BM site (the FAQ's) listed this specific lens as having working IS. It is one of only two lenses listed with IS (the other is the 12-35mm f2.8) compatible with the BMPCC. I am aware of the rule about an OIS mechanical switch, and the Vario X 14-42 does not have one. I went by what BM said. I was fooled. It is more than annoying, as the clips are otherwise above my expectations in terms of quality. Seems that the 12-35mm f2.8 is the only one with working IS and no focus problem with the BMPCC. The 35-100mm f2.8 (with mechanical switch OIS) is reported to have focusing problems with the BMPCC.

  • So many people keep posting shaky handheld pocket cam footage partly because they don't realize that the IS on the 14-42mm lumix doesn't work with the pocket cam. I love this camera but its barely useable for handheld with image stabilization, nearly impossible without it. I have seen a few, and only a few exceptions from guys using heavier lenses such as the sigma with the speed booster, but you have to have some kind of monster steady hand to pull it off properly. Shoulder rigs, steadicams and monopods are the only real options for shooting on the run without stabilization .

  • I made this short with BMPCC+Oly 12-50. Not very hapy with the image, just acceptable for me. Please, wish me luck!

  • @nomad can you maybe send a link to the "New, metal case, 5.6" monitor, 1280x800 resolution" monitor that works well for you..... could not find it on Ebay...

  • @vapourtrail

    Good advice - use Tilta pro rigs topic in Gear for report. And add few photos :-)

  • The Tilta MBPC cage arrived today. First impressions. Great cage. Well thought out. The package included a HDMI lock, which I don't recall seeing in the listing. Sweet! The build is super solid. The quick release on the riser is well made and easy to operate. The handle in front of the bmpc is nice with the wood wrapping around. The top handle also has some nice wood accents which will help hold a hand grip. One note on the top handle, I wish it had a quick release. If only for storage purposes. Also wish the HDMI lock was on a quick release, but it's a small price to pay.

    I don't know how much the kit with the bmpc weighs. I weighed it on my scale and it didn't even register!! I put on the matte box, FF, Small HD DP4, tilta vmount and 1800mha battery. That weighed 7 pounds.

    "There is a camera in there" pics and unboxing video to follow.

  • Holiday RAW BMPCC Video, edited and graded in Resolve Lite, with sound:

    108030p, ISO800, 180 shutter, Lumix 14-42mm IS lens.

  • @nosh jajaj the baba with sun glasses counting money. Soundtrack doesn't quite mix in my head and sometimes images are too sharp, my personal opinion. Very nice colours, 1'36'' just superb =)

    @OzNimbus I'm making you my new messiah jajaja. So great fun buddy XD
    BTW those embed speakers look nice on your studio walls

  • Found a great monitor in 5.6" for the BMPCC which works well, it is on the deals here as "New, metal case, 5.6" monitor, 1280x800 resolution".

    It's 227,- € new on Ebay here in Germany with very fast delivery and full accessories, but you should check the offers here first.

    The Seetec 5.6" in plastic is lighter and a bit cheaper, but it doesn't work, it only accepts input signals in 50 or 60 Hz (progressive or interlaced), but not 23.98 to 30 Hz. So, it works fine with a GH2 or even a Red Scarlet, but not with the BMPCC.

  • @OzNimbus great shots and great message too. Could be easy adapted to film making /editing business

  • Thanks @matt_gh2. This was shot in south of India and all prores. The RAW update only came out after I had already shot the footage. Have used the panasonic 12-35mm 2.8 for most of the shots and a voigtlander 25mm .95 for a few select shots.

  • Shot this on two different anamorphics/taking lenses. Workflow: RAW/Film Convert/Da Vinci Resolve. Really enjoying working with this camera.