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Panasonic G6 topic, GH2 replacement camera
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  • @DailyFilmFix

    ...are you Jonathan ? Man...that's a very cool project !

  • What are you guys going to professionally shoot with this camera? I shoot interviews--100s of them. And the hacked GH1 has been great--I have two of them with the Leica 25mm and Zuiko 45mm. These are my go to pairing. Main problem on my last feature, Three Days at Foster (threedaysatfoster.com), was that I used the cheap ND filters making color a mess in post. This is my first HD feature.

    I would use this G6 for a wide cutaway (with either the kit or the 14mm 2.5) on my next doc (we're rolling in July/August) kinda like I used the the HMC150 (which I have since sold).

    And the 60p would make this a nice companion to my LX7, which I used for out latest Kickstarter video (link coming in July). That little camera is impressive for video--wish it had 24p to match the GH1...

  • GH2 vs d800 is not a fair comparison for so many reasons imho.

  • Here's the D800 comparison:

  • I'm re-uploding it now, but I have another comparison test between the GH2 and the Nikon D800. While the D800 has horrible sharpness & moire, the preservation of detail in the darks is amazing. It makes you realize, in comparison, just what the GH2 is missing.

    I'm hoping the G6 fares much better than the GH2 in this regard and I have written to DigiFoto to see if I can get a copy of the original clips they uploaded to YouTube to see if I can push them myself and see how the GH2 and the G6 compare when pushed.

  • @Kurth. I've seen that. But in test after test of my own, with my camera and my footage, the darks look like crap. I lifted them extra high in my demos to make it clearly evident what the GH2 is doing, and I don't need to pull them up that high in actual practice, but my eyes can see the lost detail even when it's not lifted that high.

  • I was looking at those, but YouTube compression makes it hard to really see the advantages the G6 might offer, in the few shots where I might actually see it there. Plus, the grading also seems to be enhancing the color & such. I would just like to see if the darks keep their detail without compression macroblocking.

  • @IEBA1

    These videos seem to point to the darks holding more usable detail on a G6:

  • @cde, I'm with you about better JPEG quality. I'm disappointed in my GH2 as all the JPG images have red & green blotches on faces, weird color artifacts in hair. But when I look a the RAW version of the same image, it's beautiful. When I export a JPG of the RAW image from Photoshop, it's beautiful. When I pay >$1000 for a still camera I want my JPGs to be beautiful. I don't want to have to process every single image through a RAW workflow to avoid color blotches.

    As to VIDEO: the GH2 darks are a mottled mess. I've tested it, EOSHD has said as much in his GH3 review, others have shown it as well. Mine's hacked and the higher bitrate doesn't help the bad image processing choices made by the GH2. I'd LOVE to see some G6 tests where we see if the 30p and 24p darks can be graded up and show usable detail.

    Here's one of my tests comparing it to a cheap little Nikon P7700.

  • ...where are the videos ? These days any p&s can take good photos!

  • A few more pictures taken with G6, GH6 and LF1 in Bali for those who haven't seen them yet. The colors are really nice. I like the skin tones and greens on those G6 jpgs. Much better than my GH2 default jpg colors.

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/panasonic/1261371-lumix-g6-gf6-lf1-changing-photography-panasonic-digital-imaging-seminar-2013-a.html

    This camera looks quite promising. Looking forward to a hacked firmware in the future too (if and when Panasonic releases a firmware update to this camera).

  • @AlbertBarnes Love the pics. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Cde thank you for valuable info. Now I understand why people saying GH2 is a classic and unique comparing to other cams.

  • @cjdincer

    The GH2 uses a Panasonic multi aspect-ratio sensor. The sensor has a total of 18 megapixels, so it can give you 16mp stills when shooting 4:3 or 16:9, without cropping. Because of this, the sensor is wider than a typical 4:3 MFT sensor, so the crop for video (vs a 35mm stills camera) is 1.86 or so, rather than the 2x crop for 4:3.

    The GH3 uses a sensor by Sony, which is also used in the Olympus OM-D EM-5. Because it wasn't developed by Panasonic for their GH series cameras, it has a typical 4:3 sensor. The crop for video is about 2x.

    The G6 uses the Panasonic sensor from the GH2, but Panasonic always disable the multi aspect-ratio feature outside of their GH cameras. The video and 16:9 stills therefore have the same field of view as the GH3 and other Micro Four Thirds cameras, rather than the GH1 or GH2. This, combined with the improved image quality vs the GH2, is probably confusing some into thinking that the G6 is using the GH3 sensor. It's not.

  • I am so confused about this sensor issue. Some say G6 has panny sensor like GH2 and I read that GH3 has sony sensor. What is the truth about this whole sensor stuff? A knowledgeable answer is much appreciated.

  • @calleb

    Well, they're wrong.

  • Swedish Photo magazines and Panasonic Sweden states that DMC-G6 has the same sensor as in GH3!

  • I must say it will be interesting to see more video focused reviews on the G6.

  • Thinking of picking it up as a backup/B camera. The 50p/60p, and to a lesser extent peaking, are important to me.

  • Wow, if you have a GH3 why look at the G6, is that not a downgrade?

  • The GH3 is really nice. I don't regret picking one up. Great shadow detail in 50mbps, nice color rendition. Just a really lovely image. It's a shame about the moire, but it's still less common than on just about any other DSLR.

  • I fully agree that if the G6 was hacked and the bit-rate increased to double, then it will be a killer. But until that happens (may never happen) i think i'll stick with the GH2, or perhaps look at a GH3 as an upgrade path.

  • @nac

    You're right, however in certain circumstances G6 comes out easily ahead, due to less banding and nicer noise. Fingers crossed for a firmware update, so we can hopefully get the best of both worlds. That said, I'll have to see more rigorous testing to be sure of this.