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Panasonic LX7 topic
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  • stoneystoney

    LX7 is a darn good looking little fella.

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  • DailyFilmFixDailyFilmFix

    Yeah, I get it, a firmware update may be all you need. Again, good to know.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    LX7 was released on 7/2012, months to go -:)

    Best idea is not to hope for Panasonic, but to start collecting "serious" bugs list.

  • DailyFilmFixDailyFilmFix

    Understood, good to know that a hack is possible.

  • tinbeotinbeo

    LX5 was released on 8/2010, updated firmare on 09/2011. LX7 was released on 7/2012, months to go -:)

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    From your last postings here, though, I get the impression that you don't think a hack for the LX7 is going to happen. Is that accurate?

    Where you got it? I did not said that. I said that panasonic did not published any firmware.

  • DailyFilmFixDailyFilmFix

    Your continuing efforts to hack the Panasonics is greatly appreciated. It's why I've kept shooting with the GH1 (I own 2).

    I hold out hope that you're able to get the firmware to hack the LX7, because I think it could be a great little third cam for me on doc shoots. From your last postings here, though, I get the impression that you don't think a hack for the LX7 is going to happen. Is that accurate?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    I personally haven't, but if you have your camera on a tripod... the OIS I feel isn't needed.

    This suggestion for beginners is very old. I heard various explanations ala camera micro moves are of other dominant frequences (due to tripod dumping), and stabilizer can sometimes be not so good. Especially it can happen with SLR cameras.

    Of course, if you use big good video tripod and pan/tilt camera, either switch OIS off or switch to one axis mode.

    If you have shitty small tripod, it is usually best idea to leave OIS on.

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    I personally haven't, but if you have your camera on a tripod... the OIS I feel isn't needed.

    I wrote the article for those who are new to the game and are looking for a good out-of-the-box camera to start out with. :)

  • trevmartrevmar

    "Beginner film makers" - Daniel you have hurt my feelings :)

    Have you really had problems with stabilization on a tripod? I do all my (real) shooting on a tripod, with OIS on, both with LX7 and FZ200, and I have yet to see any artifacts in my video..

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    Noted, Vitaliy. I wasn't pretending to know anything about what you do (because honestly... I haven't the foggiest).

    On another note, if it pleases the court (admins), I'd like to link to a blog post I wrote regarding this camera and its use as a beginner film makers "tool".

    http://danielrutterfilms.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/lumix-lx7-tool-for-beginner-film-makers.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Vitaliy did mention he'd have a crack at this camera, so long as Panasonic released a firmware update. I'm guessing this just means it's a lot easier to crack the firmware if you don't have to "pull it off" the camera first (if that is even possible).

    It is wrong. Firmware is required for PTool. You can't make firmware from dumped image. But without dumping firmware is also useless.

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    @DailyFilmFix

    Vitaliy did mention he'd have a crack at this camera, so long as Panasonic released a firmware update. I'm guessing this just means it's a lot easier to crack the firmware if you don't have to "pull it off" the camera first (if that is even possible). I too am impatiently waiting for a hack for this camera, but it all comes down to whether or not Panasonic ever even release a firmware update.

    Higher bitrates for lower light scenes are what I believe would be better. The grain is as big as your fist if you shoot in the dark with this camera, so if there is a way to up the bitrate limit to pick up the detail in dark areas, that'd be great. Seeing if it's possible to unlock a 24p mode would be amazing as well. A Region hack would also be very welcomed, and of course... removing clip time limits as well.

    But as far as this camera goes at the moment, a hack isn't needed. It's desired, but this camera is still usable without the hack.

  • DailyFilmFixDailyFilmFix

    Vitaliy mentioned sometime back that he would have an update on this in March, right? I would pay for the hack. The camera is limited for what I do without it freeing up the clip length. Higher bitrate to match the GH hacks would be nice as well.

  • SageSage

    @tinbeo It is true; If Vitaliy gets a hold of this firmware, the 120 would be quite the coup d'état..

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    Regarding the 100/120fps clips on different timelines. I've put the clip in a 24p timeline, with 50p conformed clips (the example in question is the "LX7 various clips" video on Page 8 of this thread) and it didn't affect the smoothness of the slow motion for me. This was in Sony Vegas though, YMMV.

  • ragnarragnar

    I have a question. I shot using the LX7's HS feature which is the 120fps in 720p mode. I shot a mourning dove taking off. I put that clip on two different timeline sequences in Premiere Pro CS6: one 60p timeline and one 30p timeline. They look they same, as in, they both give nice slow-motion playback with no difference that I can see. So maybe I'm answering it myself. There really is no difference in putting the 120fps clip on either a 60p or 30p timeline in regards to how smooth the slow-motion is going to look?

    Harold

  • ragnarragnar

    What is a Pixel Shutter release? Haven't heard of that. Are we talking about the LX7 here? I ask because you mentioned the GH3. I have wireless remote shutters for my GH2 that do time lapse but the LX7 doesn't have a remote shutter feature, but I know you know that. In the meantime, I'll go lookup what a Pixel Shutter is on the Google. ;-)

  • mpgxsvcdmpgxsvcd

    @ragnar

    You are better off with a Pixel Shutter release. The invalometer in the GH3 will never work like the Pixel remote will.

  • tinbeotinbeo

    Is that true without a new firmware a hack for this amazing camera won't be? Let us continue dreamming.

  • Dusty42Dusty42

    @Daniel_R

    "if you hit "display" you can make it appear again". Yes, hitting the "display" brings it back. But if I stop the recording and start the recording a new clip the information disappear again at 1 minute. I tried to toggle the "display" button a few times and started recording after every toggle. The problem still happens and it happens right at 1 minute.

    I take it that you are not seeing the problem on your camera. What firmware version do you have?

    Thanks for answering my question.

  • ragnarragnar

    OK, got the camera today from Amazon Deals...used. It doesn't have a scratch on it so who knows what the real story is. Seems to be working just fine. Got the C1 and C2 set up to my liking but I have a question about the time lapse feature and maybe someone like mpgxsvcd will be able to advise me. Here's the issue: The lens retracts after it takes a pic and then, of course, pops out again to take the next pic a minute later. I'd rather it did not as it might startle the birds that I have it set up for. It's out there now doing its thing so we'll see when I check the card later if there are any birds there but if it is possible to keep that lens out during its time lapse function I'd rather do that. Perhaps there is a setting that will keep it active and out during the time lapse process. I'll do the digging myself if I have to but thought I'd ask before I started.

    Also, that open/shut lens cap that you can buy on Amazon is really nice and without it I wouldn't have bought the LX7.

    Also, thanks to mpgxsvcd for those setting suggestions in your Youtube video. They came in handy.

    Harold

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    Also... for those who want a better version of my first video without Youtube's lousy compression... you can download the file from Vimeo. I've just finished uploading this clip, so I suspect in order to watch it you'll be waiting about ~2 hours. It's my understanding you can download the original file from there though.

    OR, and I hope this works (and sorry for the long URL)... you can right click this link and save it straight to your hard drive that way.

    http://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ap-southeast-2.vimeo.com/videos/154/158/154158397.mp4?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJCX4YKY455TWB7MQ&Expires=1364404098&Signature=Tm4eduw%2B11egZEkRT8XjtaShlRw%3D

  • stoneystoney

    2x bitrate would be nice... only if it improves IQ noticeably.

  • Daniel_RDaniel_R

    Well, I actually got mine a few days ago... and have been having quite a bit of fun with it. Definitely better than I expected, and it's so far met my expectations quality wise. I'm still yet to see it perform in a pro environment, but so far very very impressed.

    The call for 24p is I think we need to address most. Panasonic will most likely not release a firmware update, which worries me most... but if they do, I certainly hope we can unlock 24p in full HD here.

    Anyway, here's some of the stuff I've shot with my LX7:

    And a nice showcase of the slow-mo here.

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