Driftwood Cluster X series 3:│moon T7│ЅріzZ T6│Nebula T7│Drewnet T9│

Aashay

@brant_moore Personally, I would advice you not to get caught up in these patches way more than what is needed. If you can't really tell the difference between settings then choose the one that's reliable and looks good to you overall with your lenses. These patches have been liked by people like Sir Coppola himself (who are wayyyyyyy better judge of the quality of the patches/picture than you and me, imho) Driftwood patches ARE quality! No matter what you pick. Now, for 60p some people say shooting intra (Moon) will be more useful. If you have tons of space to spare, go for it. Others (Like Drewnet who is incredible) says long gop patches (Drewnet) can render extremely amazing results as well. Do a little slow-mo test in a well lit environment and compare. We can talk here all day long about different patches but until you do the drill and you feel which patch is right for you, don't listen to anyone else.

spreeni

Wasn't this the idea of Driftwood's Slipstream? Unfortunately I didn't hear of it for a long time.

brant_moore

@Aashay Thank you for the reply.

I ask because I use 24H for work, and 720SH for personal action sports videos that need to be 60p. So having the best of both worlds at the same time is what I am looking for. I do not want to re-flash the camera each time I switch between personal shooting and work shooting.

I guess what I really need is to learn what to look for when comparing two different settings.

Aashay

@brant_moore @kris.. It's rather difficult to answer those since you are comparing two different beasts and the "quality"/feel/look is such a subjective opinion. One is all Intra while other is 3gop, It all depends on you (the user) to evaluate your constraints (disk space being one of them) and motion rendition and other things that will be unique to the project you are doing. What driftwood has done is provided you with solution for all practical situations. Now all you need to do is spare some time- download both hacks you wanna compare and look at the footage. You will know yourself what you like.

kris

@brant_moore,I also think so - ( Is the difference in quality of 720 between Drewnet T9 and Moon T7 worth choosing Drewnet over Moon? Any opinions? )

Bozzie

@matt_gh2 Thanks Matt. Appreciate it.

brant_moore

Is the difference in quality of 720 between Drewnet T9 and Moon T7 worth choosing Drewnet over Moon? Any opinions?

rlima

After getting my GH3 I was a bit out of all hack development discussion, but recently tried Moon T5... and one word: AMAZING! I think I'll stick with this one for now, as it is veeeery stable with all my Sandisk Extreme Pro cards... Thanks @drfitwood for your amazing job!! Just a quick test...

arson519

Has anyone tried the new sandisk extreme 80MB cards

dado023

@Jim_Simon

have you ever tried it at higher fragmentation, for example, when you have few thousands images on it or maybe 50GB of data on it, ...is it then stable as it is while freshly formated?

Jim_Simon

@lmackreath

I've been using the SanDisk Extreme (not Pro) 128GB 45MB/s card with Moon 7 no problems. It even spans just fine.

No_SuRReNDeR

Wish I had paid attention to spanning issues on moon T7 before applying -I was shooting a wedding proposal where there was a flash mob first then the proposal(8min total) and one of my 2 cams didn't span-- luckily I had the 64gig 95MBs in the hand held(on a flycam nano) but I was shaking REALLY bad because of a back injury that happened that morning and the flycam didnt help much.... so now all I have of the proposal is a jello jiggle mess and the wide shot from a 7D across the street.... that aside the image quality was bomb on Moon graded nice too... dont get me wrong... why I didn't just use a lesser quality or 3gop patch is beyond me.

matt_gh2

@Bozzie Soldier was really well done. Congrats.

briwil

Using Moon T7, setd- can anyone help me figure out why my clips are still coming in at 23.97 and not 24p?

FernandoAndre

Job shooted mostly with Moon T7.

karas

It looks like Moon T7 is too much for a G3 to handle in well-lit high-detailed scenes, as it occasionally freezes during recording (amazing in low light though). Are there any plans to make a less demanding GOP-1 setting, just like FSH in the old Slipstream #3? Thanks!

nobbystylus

Spanning is one area that seems hit and miss. It would be great if Moon T7 had the 'L' mode @ 24fps which was a reliable long take 'spanner', but i can't really complain. For most purposes these settings are gorgeous.

kkorr

@lmackreath My Extreme 16Gb 45MB/s also works with Cluster X but it does not span. I would like know if a sandisk 128gb sdxc 45mb/s card would span! Does it span?

driftwood

All the new Cluster X settings appear to be working with a myriad of Extreme cards. :-)

I say that these settings are absolutely beautiful quality. Now try and prove me wrong.

briwil

Thank you. And I'll throw in there that I'm using a Patriot EP Series 64GB Class 10 card, 35/MBs, and it works flawlessly with Moon T7.

maddog15

@lmackreath Only from my personal experience - After trying nearly all of the Cluster X2 series patches when driftwood first released them, nothing was perfectly "stable" until I bit the bullet and bought the SanDisk 64GB 95MB/s Extreme Pro Card. Since then... never had a problem. Hate to admit it because I still feel the cost of that little plastic card is absolutely ridiculous, BUT this is the one time where "You get what you pay for" rings true.

That said I know a lot of folks have used the card you mentioned with some of the hacks. Which ones.. don't know.

lmackreath

Sorry if this has already been asked but will a sandisk 128gb sdxc 45mb/s card be fine to handle Moon T7?

maddog15

@briwill

"does the subject matter/complexity of the shot change the bitrate?" AND "Is this normal."

Yes and yes.

briwil

I also have to say Moon T7 looks incredible, having spent a few days with it. I am spoiled though, as I only just got my GH2 last week, so T7 is all I've ever known on this camera.

I did notice one thing- and I am a noob with this hack, so forgive me if this is a stupid question- but a lot of my shots from the beach the other day came out at between 50-70mbits/s... about half came out at 140mbps or so. Is this normal, does the subject matter/complexity of the shot change the bitrate? Could it be my card? Even the 50mbps shots looked great, so not complaining, just wondering if I'm missing something.

*Sorry, also, using setd of Moon T7, all my shots are still coming out 23.97, not 24p. What am I doing wrong?

caveport

I agree with the Moon T7 comments. My initial tests look absolutely fantastic. I'll be doing some more "Kitchen Sink" testing to evaluate noise and block artefacts when I get some free time.

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