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Raw video on Canon 5d Mark 3 and other cameras using liveview framebuffer
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  • squigsquig

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    KomputerBay relabels cards made by other companies. Today the 64GB card is usuable but there is no guarantee that tomorrow they will relabel cards from the same manufacturer, or that the cards will be perfectly usable cards that failed to meet the original company's standards that are the labelled specs. This will be the difference between working and not working with the ML hack. It is a lottery every time you purchase relabeled cards.

  • GrunfGrunf

    as soon as somebody makes a working CF-to-SSD hardware, the cat is out of the bag. Theoretically, UDMA-7 used on 5D III tops out at 167MB/s. If you could offload that to SSD, 1080p50 in 14-bit RAW (bayer data!) is possible.

    Then you could make a workflow that de-bayers and converts 14-bit raw to, for example 10-bit ProRes (with dithering).

    If that would happen, it would mean that you could use your 5D to shoot 160MB/sec worth of 14-bit RAW with S35 sensor size and great latitude = massacre for revenues for hi-end stuff.

  • jakepowelljakepowell

    whats the situation on the mark 2? from a performance point of veiw does its line skipping inhibit its quality in comparison to the mark 3? from a budget perspective this is way more enticing than a mark 3 to me ....

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Anyway, the last build is very stable, it even has sound (although you have to start the sound before recording -from the ml menu, and when starting the video there is beep that helps sync-. Also, the video is now triggered by the appropriate button, and lastly preview is getting there. The progress is just ridiculous and anyone nitpicking is just fooling himself, the ML team has surpassed themselves.

    Good news.

  • monosebamonoseba

    gh2 looks good but seem a little overexposed.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • BurnetRhoadesBurnetRhoades

    I feel like some of the motion cadence in a few of these is weird. Could be shutter speed or dropped frames?

    There's been lots of discussion on the ML boards about dropped frames, card performance, file system, etc. It sounds like it's a lot of little issues to overcome. Enough so that file spanning isn't a priority right now.

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    I just quickly threw together some rough 5D Mark III test footage that I shot at Minnesota's state capitol the other day during our celebration for the governor signing marriage equality into law. The footage is crude and handheld, but it was a pleasure to work with it - tons and tons of latitude.

  • robertGLrobertGL

    that '2.5k' crop is like a 2500x700 resolution crop; not a 4x3 or 16x9

  • fatpigfatpig

    The last 2 videos show clearly that grading still does the trick. :) the former looks great, cinematic. the latter could just as well have been H264, the contrast is very hard.

    Did anyone hear about 2.5K RAW on the 5D3? The Mark II seems to be limited to just under Full HD, also in my own tests I could not get above 1880x720.

  • squigsquig

    @ Vitaliy Yeah I'm sure Canon could make it work if they wanted it too.

  • jpbturbojpbturbo

    @bannedindv

    That last video that @Vitaliy_Kiselev posted was shot in 24p and conformed to 25p. I agree that it looks kind of juddery.

  • bannedindvbannedindv

    I feel like some of the motion cadence in a few of these is weird. Could be shutter speed or dropped frames? But the DR, color, and detail can be very pretty.

    From a business standpoint I believe Canon or a third party should offer a 1.8 inch SSD "recorder grip" or maybe someone can get gig-e recording over the wft-e7a file transfer grip.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @squig

    Something tells me that it'll work :-) As making this work opens good business opportunity to some companies. And Canon is also interested on making it work.

  • squigsquig

    Nope HDMI won't work, it has been explored but there's some big hurdles figuring out the Canon code. Plus you'd need the support of one of the external recorder vendors to write code on their end.

  • maxrmaxr

    @squig bear with my offensive ignorance, from your answer I grasp that the Dng workflow is something happening (and recordable) internally only... what I mean is: any chance of capturing (and encoding) a stream from the Raws with en external recorder via HDMI? has that anything to do with physical limitations, software, playback? thanks

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    @oscillian Right one.. The BMPCC will be a beast of a camera 13 Stops of Dynamic Range, ProRes 422 - 10bit & the option of shooting Raw all on SD cards finally sharpness is excellent, can't go wrong with that. I'm BMPCC all day, yep you right a lot of people going to cancel their orders that will speed things up big time. Lastly this will force Blackmagic to deliver on time this time around, or even move the release date up a little.

  • jakepowelljakepowell

    @ oscillian + 1

  • fatpigfatpig

    still not MFT... So BMPCC will likely be the choice for me :)

  • oscillianoscillian

    Nope, I'm not going down the RAW road yet, 10bit ProRes is just fine :) I hope this speeds up my BMPCC preorder!

  • CdeCde

    As an Australian, it will feel good to buy Blackmagic products. :)

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    Its a side point and probably more relevant to the BMCC vs 5D RAW that's going on but one thing that's going through my mind I want to get off my chest. Seems like many people are running from the BM camp and sniffing around the 5D one. Firstly its a free world everyone in my opinion has the right to choose the best tool they can find. That said when are some people going to stand up and use their consumer right to vote and tell companies like Canon to (Sorry, we are adults and I don't use this language without purpose) FUCK OFF!!!!

    My point is this BM seems to of bended over backward to make their products great and priced reasonably, of course they want to make a profit but they also seem passionate about putting great tools out there, almost I detect a pride in doing so. So my point is this why don't I ever see people make a choice of camera based on integrity to the camera world with a long term view of who they should support with their purchases? Now like I said, understand I am all for freedom. What I'm saying is long term who should we be backing? companies that have zero care for us and would sell us cameras for billions if they thought they could or companies like BM. In the long term people should think if we vote with integrity just slightly in the mix of our decision making we are taking back power. Its not about some kind of anti corporate war its about choosing financially which kind of companies we want to be making our cameras. Doesn't have to be one company either, but cut off those that clearly aren't going trying to supply us the tools we want.....and probably never will until a competitor forces them to.

    If when people look at two cameras and they cant quite decide between the two, then hey would it be so hard or wrong to say well i'm going to buy this one cause I want to support them cause in the long term supporting those that aim to support me is selfishly even to me and my communities benefit. And like I said saying to those who don't care about us, which we know already to.....well you know the rest.

  • squigsquig

    @rockroadpix It's around a minute ATM, there's a 4Gb limit but that can be disabled I'm told.

    @maxr sure you can record externally with canons firmware and it's soft as shite.

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