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Thinking about Glidetrack HD. Any suggestions?
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  • The K2 looks just like the lite varavon to me. Same rail width, same bearing system, same ends, same rail greaser, same bag, and the feet are damn closs

    How about check first before telling things?

    They have different weigh, different width of rails, different ends, different bearings, different bags and legs are totally different.

  • The K2 looks just like the lite varavon to me. Same rail width, same bearing system, same ends, same rail greaser, same bag, and the feet are damn closs. I do believe the K2 has a higher payload capacity. How do they not compare?

  • @vicharris

    K2 has no equivalent slider on Varavon side, as I understand, as Lite newer slider in different niche.

    If you want to compare it'll be K3 vs S, to same length sliders it'll be $442 versus $389

    Even if you want to compare just cheapest offers it'll be $219 vs $229 (for 60cm sliders). Don't see here anything near $100.

  • The equivalent Varavon. The have some of the same parts.

  • Also the K2 is $100 cheaper.

    Cheaper than what?

  • Also the K2 is $100 cheaper. So the comment best bang for the buck might be true, or at last a very viable opinion. Just bought one to try it and it's not too bad. I don't see any difference in these two sliders. Wish I bought a heavier duty one but it's still light years from the Igus crap.

  • @pundit

    It is true, as I am looking at their info :-) It is just not on site yet.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev "Varavon has motorised solutions"

    Where Vitaliy? I can't see anything on Varavon's website about motorised sliders.

  • The only issue with the Varavon is they don't have a motorized solution. If you want to have that, Konova

    Looks like quite bad Konova advertisment :-)

    Plus it is false. Varavon has motorised solutions.

    Let's go point by point.

    Its the best bang4buck w/o doubt.

    This point is not really true.

    you get the full extras bag, feet, etc.

    Nothing exclusive here, it is same.

    It takes a little time to get used to slider technique and you have to keep the rods oiled. Konova gives you these little pads that lubricate to keep it smooth.

    Same.

    You don't pay 'tax' since Konova is dealing in US.

    Same, as Varavon has US branch. Problem is US don't have any tax problem, usually.

  • @John_Farragut: The only issue with the Varavon is they don't have a motorized solution. If you want to have that, Konova. I like my K3 100cm. The Varavon and Konovas quality is solid. With a GH2, the metal does not bend when i put it on a tripod. I was concerned with that. Its the best bang4buck w/o doubt. No reason to spend anymore imo...you get the full extras bag, feet, etc. It takes a little time to get used to slider technique and you have to keep the rods oiled. Konova gives you these little pads that lubricate to keep it smooth. You don't pay 'tax' since Konova is dealing in US. I had no issues ordering through their website and even emailing back and forth. I may look at their other accessories later on.

  • ade4all "so how are you finding the Varavon then Pundit?"

    Chalk and cheese compared to the IGUS.

    The IGUS required very careful alignment of the dry bearings to reduce binding but I could never seem to completely eliminate it.

  • I have a Drylin and a Kanova.. the Kanova is great, the Drylin I did a few mods to and its decent.. but there is a reason I have the Konova, its a better slider and I can usually get the shot first try , the Drylin I can get the shot but some times takes 3 attempts to get a perfect slide. Friction based is just harder to get a perfect smooth slide. one other option is a skater dolly.. if you have a nice smooth place to run it on .. or bring your own surface to run it .. you can make a nice track for it, with channeled aluminum.

  • good to hear thanks janis, my mind is made up

  • @ade4all I have Varavon S1200 and I have no need for anything else. It's good with EX3 and it does look good. One thing to think about is heavy tripod and/or two good stands to put slider on.

  • so how are you finding the Varavon then Pundit?

  • @fatpig The IGUS DryLin is friction based and is difficult to make smooth movements with. That's why most eventually upgrade to a bearing type slider. I have an IGUS and recently purchased a Varavon Slidercam S.

  • yes have tried a version of this & didnt get on with it really, am looking for a bearing type of slider

  • if you want cheap- buy the original industrial slider and drill the mounting hole yourself: http://www.igus.de/wpck/default.aspx?PageNr=2004

    its called DryLin by IGUS.

  • thanks for the info Vitaliy, am sorely tempted by that great deal you got going....its between this and the Digital Juice, which is a meatier more solid looking slider - more expensive too - they both have their merits - but if the Varavon can handle the af101 as smoothly then price and ease of travel make it a good choice

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Thanks. I now see that. So the Varavon Slidecam Lite 600. A good portable slider for GH2?

    Does anyone know a good European store that sells Varavon?

  • @ade4all

    Must be good. It has very sturdy steel rails, so you can use quite big weight.

    @John_Farragut

    Konova is reseller, not manufacturer.
    So, just suggest Varavon 600 :-)

  • I also want to buy a cheap slider. Has anyone experience with the Konova K2? Want to buy the 60cm so I have something portable. These are roller bearings, but I'm hesitant, because they are one of the cheapest -- well, import directly from Korea, so plus import tax, etc.

    Maybe this is not the right thread to ask.

  • can the Varavon Slidercam S handle a Panasonic AF101 with 1.5 lb lens or would you need the next model up - the narrowness of track makes me feel it is meant for dslrs?

  • @pvjames I just purchased a Varavon Slidercam S (900mm) through Vitaliy's CatchIt Deals. I put together an Igus slider from parts (friction not roller version) a year ago and it's nearly impossible to get any kind of smooth consistent motion out of it. I'm sure the Varavon will be much better. I bought the S version as I think I should be more suited to motorisation than the smaller Lite version.

  • I've A-B'd the Konova and Kessler. I give Kessler the slight nod but it wasn't too far. Konova is a great value and you get more stuff. But i would check out the Varavon S model which is above the Lite version. This is what i would get now for bang4buck (if you don't need a motor). I hope they produce a decent inexpensive motor for TL.

    http://www.varavon.com/product/slid_detail_s.html