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  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Fair enough.

    @AttiusD Are the concepts intended more for international crews or U.S. one(s)? If they are intended for U.S. one(s), I'd be happy to start looking at the logistics of shooting it with you and see what we need to do to move it forward. If the trailer should be done by an international crew, I'd be happy to look back at the participants we've had to find someone to volunteer their time.

    Also, I've been spending a few days experimenting with ways of depicting transitions in consciousness without using 3D graphics, etc. I wanted something that "feels" evocative and draws the person in rather than making them go "that's nice CGI" or "that's awful CGI" etc. I'll probably apply it to some of my own work when it's further along so that you guys can see what I am talking about and whether you would like it for the film or not.

  • If you ask me, to revive it we need one boss, one small crew and short trailer. Next add second unit with same absolute boss.

  • Hey guys!

    How's life treating you these days? ;) I've been playing with a couple of concepts for the trailer. I don't have anything for you yet because I've been kind of busy these last couple of weeks. I promise to give you something to read in the next days.

    With the resources that we have at the moment, a trailer seems more than feasible. Let's see.

  • Let's do a trailer, good idea. Sorry about the doc . . . I put up my info for you.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev @thepalalias

    I can write a short movie/trailer based on the Stowaway concept and characters. If we can shoot it, we'll accomplish at least to things: We’ll prove that we can tell a story together and we’ll have something to attract more assets to the project while we keep the moral of the troops up.

    It can be a sort of Mega-Goodie of the week. At this point I think it’s necessary to throw one of these Goodies every week to keep people interested: A weekly reminder that this is for real. Sometimes it can be something big like this short, others something smaller like a still from a possible location, a scene excerpt,...

    In any case, I’m up for Vitaliy’s suggestion: Let’s get two or three crews interested in doing this short/trailer, someone that will edit it, someone to score it,... I’ll write something and show you next week. We can work on this while we continue walking towards the final goal (the feature). If you think about it, it doesn’t have to be a slow-down or anything. It can be just the opposite.

    P.D.: By the way, those still interested please put your name and a brief description of your resources here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1roPV0wfZu9ebPyXTg25HtNzjgky0yyfPuVTmECdFd8k/edit

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Do you mean shooting one of the scenes ahead of the rest as a proof of concept?

  • I want just to repeat my suggestion to make something very small, say 60 seconds, with script and shooting at, say, 2 distant places. It'll inject some optimism, and also attract new people.

    Project will die if it'll go so long on the script level only.

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  • @thepalalias

    Sorry man, I read your message on the phone and then forgot to answer it. The phone may be smart but its user is a dumbass. ;) Now, everyone with the link should be able to edit the doc.

  • @atticusd Glad you like it. Let me know when you have the first draft ready and I will take the same approach.

    I think the Google Doc is a great idea. Can you use the share button to make sure we can all edit it? At the moment it appears to be read only on my end. Then we can send the link out in a message to the project group, too.

  • @thepalalias @all

    Hey! Thanks for taking the time to read and edit the scene. I really like your approach. The tone hasn't drifted at all. It's just more polished and therefore easier to read.

    I agree with you on the settings part. Right before production it will be the time to address that kind of stuff.

    Right now what we need to do is make a list of people who's really committed to shoot this, see if that is enough to tell this particular story and then set a date for the first draft delivery.

    Those of you who are really interested, please put your name and a brief description of your resources here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1roPV0wfZu9ebPyXTg25HtNzjgky0yyfPuVTmECdFd8k/edit

    I know there’s an assets list already on the wiki, but that was months ago. Putting your name on the new Doc will mean that you’re still willing to do this. New people are more than welcome.

  • @atticusd

    I figured it had probably changed a lot since then, that's why I only did the first scene. I mainly showed it so that you could get a sense for some of my thoughts relative to what was on the page at that point, and so that I could get a sense of what was most essential to you.

    No hurry to show/share the rest. Just wanted you to know that I'll be ready to read it when you do.

    As far as settings, I think we should establish them ahead of time. I forsee 2 or 3 variations: 1 for shots short enough to not need to span, 1 for shots that need to span and possibly an additional one for any shots requiring 720P or 1080i (e.g. slow-motion).

    But I don't think it makes sense to address that until right before production, because the settings keep getting updated every week.

  • @sebasp1 @all

    By now I have more written material but I'd rather not show it until a first draft is completed. Sometimes too much exposure kills the thing for me. It's stupid supersticious stuff, I know, but I can't help it.

    About settings, in my opinion it would be advisable that everyone use the same settings and film modes even if just to make things easier for the post guys.

    The story has been thought out with a collaborative approach in mind. It can easily be divided in pieces and shot by different crews around the world. If I need to rewrite some segments to accommodate them to the particular needs of a certain crew, that won't be a problem at all. The goal is to shoot something decent. I'm not going to be precious about every aspect of the story if that means making a crappy movie.

  • @AtticusD

    Here's my read on the first part of the excerpt. Let me know if you feel like the tone has drifted too far from your intent - I was mainly just trying to make it more concrete

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qLCp_yOLKN4Qz05j77ZYg2XZ25Ipy2Rhevh9VqYFNRY/edit.

    Please send me your e-mail address so that we can both have full access to the document and so that I can calibrate more closely to your writing style, making sure I don't suggest editing out that parts that are most important to you. Also, right now everyone else just has viewing and commenting ability.

    My apologies about the formatting: I couldn't copy from the PDF so I had to just re-type all of it in a new document.

    @B3Guy When we talked about all this stuff a while back, it had been discussed that I would oversee the music side. But given my schedule, I doubt I would have time to score the thing myself. It would be great to have at least a couple composers on the project so each of us could play to our strengths.

    What are your specialties and what are the parts you tend to enjoy writing for the most? On a project like this, there's no reason anyone should end up stuck writing stuff they feel is filler. :)

  • @thepalalias @all

    Here you have it: http://atticusdiablowsky.com/downloads/stowaway_starter_pack.rar

    Password: pleaseletmein

    Inside you'll find the Beat Sheet and a couple of scenes. It's a bit rough but you get the idea.

  • if you need filmscoring, i can do it

  • @Atticusd @sebasp1 I think we need to be aware of the teams we have available as the script is being written. When you are composing a piece for orchestra, it is important to know what the ensemble's configuration will be, and I think in a piece as geographically diverse as this, the same thing applies. :)

    @sanzadez I'm happy to coordinate the L.A. crew if no one else would prefer the job. Otherwise, I'd be happy to assist.

    I am going to check the earlier e-mails to see if there is a version of the early script available to read still.

  • i was thinking how are we gonna divide the acttions, i mean once the script is finished each team picks a part and shoots ?

    also what about settings? should each use the setting it wants or should we choose one for all?

    please @atticusd share here what you got so far if you dont mind!

  • I'm still game to help out any way needed. I won't be in LA, but rather back in MN for the summer, then in NYC next semester.

  • Oh yeah. Forgot to remind: I'm based in Vancouver, BC, Canada, but ~may~ have a return trip to Japan coming up, so -- with appropriate warning -- may also be able to shoot in Japan.

  • @thepalalias I'm still up for working on this project. I don't feel I can lead a unit myself, but I would be more than happy to work with a unit here in Southern California on this project.

  • Hi i think the best way to do this is through here, it started here in this thread and it will be finished here, i dont know if i been counted but im willing to lead a unit. I have my gh2 and a bunch of friends from cinema school so i think thats enough.

    What kind of locations does the script call for¿? and in which situation? i remember a draft of it, but would like to see it posted here, though it may seem rudimentary we should post everything here!

    maybe putting deadlines is killing us so we should take this as an open project with no clear ending - in process?

  • I'm here, but I'm not "inner circle," and have not seen anything since everyone did their pitches (a couple months back or so). Is there now an online treatment to view or something? In the meantime, I've been getting busier writing my fourth feature for a film that I want to direct at the end of this year. I'm also preparing to make a short this summer. I'm not feeling so committed now, as it has seemed that the momentum has swung in the direction of 'stalled', however, if a real screenplay gets written and we agree how we will produce it and weave the work of each crew together, then... I'm still in.

  • @atticusd If the 7 other people that showed up with their GH2s for the testing on Sunday helped show anything, it's that we have people ready to go in this geographic area.

    If you want a place that looks like the protagonists are "completely unconcerned with mess since they won't be around long enough to have to deal with it for very long" then we could probably shoot something in my tiny house. ;)

    More seriously, if we used a very small crew and could shoot without drawing too much attention, http://perlichtman.com/pasdenapulse/wordpress/photo-gallery/ then almost any of those locations (except for the ones with statues or fountains) would be potential candidates. The ones near the mountains or waterfall might be possible with larger crews, if the script called for them.

  • @atticusd

    I still think that it was too ambitious project.
    How about make something very short, later make it longer and longer.
    Going on by one, I mean.