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dbp

You sure that quantum 100+ Nine works on 30mb/s cards, in 720 60p, with panasonic lenses? That's my biggest problem, most of the patches seem to have dodgy 720p modes, at least with my Panasonic 20mm. The 24p works with all of them, though I noticed that with the really high end ones, like quantum 9b, you can't change the aperture while recording, or it'll fail. Not a big deal when shooting narrative stuff though, which is precisely when I'd use that patch.

mozes

rajamalik 10:31AM Aquamotion v2 is not a stable one, i tested it 2 days ago and i am sure abt it. aquamotion v1.0 is good. and its stable Jep that is my experience also.

But Nine dident work ad all, lot off errors.
and Quantum v9b did work great...

All i can say is, @balazer is absolute right.....

Stray

Cheers, yep have seen the + nine patches. I'm using the Quantum v9b at the moment, which is very solid for what I'm doing (mostly indoor shooting, short takes) and it holds up very well when working with the footage. I'm not really interested at all in shooting slowmo, I would always do that in post. I'm not shooting in 720p either, but will give the +Nine a spin if I need to. I'll switch to bkmcwds recent GOP3 patch for some outdoor shots I think. As troyjason said at the start of the post, stability is down to what you're doing/using. We've got plenty of stable options available (including spanning options) for any type of work now, and we'll all switch between patches (heh, and memory cards) when we feel the need to.

rajamalik

@stray yep i tried 88mbit. its not a super quality patch. its much better than 44mbit for sure. see quantum 100 + Nine this patch is modified and tested by sage. the best patch u can get. it has fantastic quality in 720 slow motion and records 1080 24p h in 100 mbit & 50 mbit in lower setting,....quality is not compromised....almost similar to quantum v9b and Nine looks great in 720P,....

pc_bel

What about CBranding 44mbps???

Stray

@rajamalik or anyone who has tried it, How does the 88Mbit hold up with really high detail ? Thats a very low bitrate for a GOP1 patch. I can't test at the mo as I'm in the middle of a project. I mean.. the size of your I-frames, your compression, is going to be about the same as those in the stock settings.

rajamalik

See i dont think temperature and other things play a major role in patch and its stability. i am sure lens does a major role even in stock , but, it only plays a role in bokeh quality sharpness focus and so on... stability of the recording mode and these patch works are 100% software based. lens doesn't perform any role here. some patches from www.eoshd.com was stable when i tested. they are rock solid. dont try their roadrunner 200. i feel that intras esting 88 mbit. from them is the stable one of all.. very stable in 30m/s cards.

rajamalik

@dbp Aquamotion v2 is not a stable one, i tested it 2 days ago and i am sure abt it. aquamotion v1.0 is good. and its stable to a extend. i feel this gentle man should try quantum100+Nine and Quantum v9b+Nine. Nine is a gh2-x patch finalized and tested by sage. i found quantum 100+ Nine is the best for any class 10 30 m/s cards and above. here find quantum 100 + Nine below.

dbp

I've found Aquamotion V2 to be pretty much flawless in 24h w/ my panny 20mm 1.7 lens. 720 60p also. Only time it ever gave me errors was with 720 60p, 3200iso and autofocus on the 14-42lens.

That's with a sandisk 32gb 30mbs card.

LPowell

I've received a number of helpful reliability reports from testers on Flow Motion v1.0 and I'm currently fine-tuning patch revisions intended to function reliably in extreme cases and combinations of modes. In my experience, there are a number of difficult use cases that require significantly more conservative patch settings:

ETC mode, particularly in 720p & 1080i
High ISO, enabled by the ISO limit patch
Fast shutter speeds, above 1/60 sec
Native M4/3 distortion-corrected lenses
4GB file-spanning at bitrates > 50Mbps

I'd like to propose that video modes 24L (1080p), FH (1080i), and H (720p) be designated as the default modes for supporting all combinations of the above cases in GH2 patches.

In addition, patches that exhibit stable behavior in Fallback Mode when forced to operate at excessively high bitrates should be considered reliable. Of course, for less demanding patches, any of the above cases can be optionally supported in the high quality recording modes as well. Standardizing on this approach will allow modes 24H, FSH, and SH to be reserved for highest-quality patch optimizations designed for cinematic filming conditions:

Manual-focus lenses
ISO 1600 and below
Shutter speed 1/60 sec and below
Non-ETC video modes
Individual takes of 3 minutes or less

balazer

No one really knows which patch settings are completely reliable. We all have different cameras and we're shooting different things, with different camera settings and different cards.

The best any of us can do is to look across the forum and count up the reports of success and failure with each of the different settings. My assessment of user reports is that CBrandin's 44M and 66M settings are reliable, though you only get spanning in 32L. Driftwood's simplest patch settings (Aquamotion v1 and Reaquainted) are the most stable ones among all of the intra settings. But even then I've made Aquamotion fail by using ETC mode. (curable by shooting in 24L with the bit rate set to 66, or by just not using ETC mode)

There are newer settings, like Flow Motion or my Cake that haven't received enough testing to call them reliable.

mpgxsvcd

I doubt you will get many responses on this. The fact is that not many people really care about a patch that is rock solid for every card, and every lens, in every situation. That is because they can just spend a couple of extra dollars and get a faster card.

They probably don't own every lens either. And they probably don't shoot in every type of situation. What they want is a hack tailored to their specific needs and their specific scenarios.

The hack you requested was made and was thoroughly tested with nearly every card, and almost all lenses, in every scenario imaginable. It never fails which is actually saying something because even the stock V1.0 firmware will fail with some class 6 cards. The no adverse affects settings won't fail at all. However, that really is not that important to most people.

This firmware is the firmware that the GH2 should have shipped with in the first place. It is more reliable than Panasonic's own firmware at twice the bit rate.

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/953/gh2-patch-vault-most-popular-patches-in-one-place#Item_5

rajamalik

@troyjason

Yes u r rite. i own a 64 gb san 95m/s still some patches are unstable sometimes. even quantum v9b and quantum 100 needs more stability. yesterday i had a problem with both. i feel if we get some very stable patches something with no error and trust worthy. do we have any over 88mbit? with maximum quality?

Griffin

na na,...see some patches are so stable with any lens temp and so on, just with class 10 30 m/s cards and above,.... i opened this topic to tag these patches separate from total numbers,... got it???? (i meant the very stable patch class 10 30m/s and above cards with gh2)

troyjason

There already is a thread for that:

http://tiny.cc/76skt

Remember that you have to do your OWN testing. Stability depends on YOUR lenses, the speed and brand of YOUR memory card, the material that YOU are shooting, the settings YOU want to use, the record time YOU expect, the temperature (dont laugh it matters) that YOU shoot in.

Understand?

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