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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • vernon coleman.....

  • @kurth

    As far as I see it is some old thing, content is real mess. I am not sure why this guy is not in jail.

    This guy is not for any proper scientific understanding and people warning, but exactly about reducing population around by selecting especially heavy idiots, but also some old or very busy people can fall into the trap also.

    In November 1989, Coleman wrote an article published in The Sun under the headline "AIDS—THE HOAX OF THE CENTURY"

    Coleman is quite fun guy.

    Transcript of video on the site http://www.vernoncoleman.com/greatestcrime.htm

    Btw he is smart to have all of transcripts on his local site.

    In the UK, the NHS has always been a money wasting machine. The amount now spent on the NHS is so great that if that money were simply handed out to the public, everyone in Britain would be able to buy themselves top level private health care. How can that be? It’s simply because there are more administrators than hospital beds in the health service and vast amounts of money is wasted on pointless bureaucracy. Like all large, bureaucratic organisations the last people to be fired are the bureaucrats themselves. They just keep hiring and building their empires.

    The NHS is regarded worldwide as the pinnacle of socialised medicine. Many around the world look upon it with envy. But that is only because they look at from a distance: as observers rather than as consumers. The NHS has been a disaster in every possible sense. Most people who work for it say they wouldn’t want to be treated in their hospital. The outstanding legal claims in the NHS had reached £85 billion before the coronavirus fiasco hit and left patients untreated and uncared for. Untold thousands of people will be entitled to sue and demand huge damages as a result of the coronavirus hoax – now better referred to as a fraud.

    Overall satisfaction with the NHS is low and falling annually. People complain of long waits, staff shortages, lack of money and money being wasted. It is a deadly tale of indifference, incompetence, greed, selfishness and weariness. The incidence of doctor induced disease (iatrogenesis) soars every year.

    It has long been recognised, incidentally, that waiting lists of all kinds were and are deliberately created by doctors to enhance their private incomes.

    http://www.vernoncoleman.com/destroyedhealth.htm

    Anti mask stance - http://www.vernoncoleman.com/endingtheconfusion.htm

    Guy is selling books and similar things, he found specific niche, but he has nothing to do with logic or your well being.

  • Tracing apps may stem Covid-19 spread even when only a few use them - study. Contact tracing apps can sharply reduce the spread of Covid-19 even when only a few people use them, a study published on Thursday by researchers at Google and Oxford University showed. An app used by 15% of the population together with a well-staffed contact-tracing workforce can lead to a 15% drop in infection rates and an 11% drop in Covid-19 deaths, according to statistical modelling.

    Both Google and Apple now added and integrated not only functions, but full tracking apps in their OS.

    Expect that it will be required to have such app on soon.

  • Children may carry the coronavirus for longer than adults and for longer than previously thought, a new study in the United States has found.

    Researchers at the Children’s National Hospital in Washington analysed the medical records of more than 60 children who had been tested multiple times for Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, and found the median time it took to test negative was 25 days.

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  • @Vitaliy...the truth is always somewhere in between opposing forces. I prefer to entertain all sides of an argument, especially for subjects like corona..because simply put...no one knows the truth.....even you, contrary to your personal view. And of course he's smart to control his opinionated writings and videos. Youtube has already deleted many. And when subjects are banned by the ptb, better listenup.

  • @kurth

    the truth is always somewhere in between opposing forces.

    No, truth is not lie1+lie2 divided by two.

    because simply put...no one knows the truth.....even you, contrary to your personal view.

    You like making bold statements instead of learning.

    And when subjects are banned by the ptb, better listenup.

    Most of the time society band for good reason. Lot of similar people deserves much worse things than Youtube banning.

  • @Vitaliy ....as usual your definition isn't accurate. The truth lying between opposing explanations doesn't mean you simply divide the two. The world is not black and white. It's a trillion shades of grey floating in 4 dimensions. And no one knows the truth....about anything. That's why we have epistomology as a field of study. Although there's always someone who thinks they know the truth, usually to their own chagrin. Nothing more dangerous to free men than a true believer. And saying that society bans for good reason only demonstrates your gestapo big brother leaking out. Good thing you'll never be in charge.

  • @kurth

    It is not definition, it is sarcasm in reply to extremely lazy sentence.

    It's a trillion shades of grey floating in 4 dimensions. And no one knows the truth....about anything. That's why we have epistomology as a field of study.

    It is useful for you to know that such philosophy views are typical for extremely reactionary ruling class in modern society. You just constantly translate here views of mass media and ruling class, but somehow want to present it as some "free" and original view.

    Nothing more dangerous to free men than a true believer. And saying that society bans for good reason only demonstrates your gestapo big brother leaking out. Good thing you'll never be in charge.

    We already made it clear that you don't have even slightest understanding that "free" means.
    My scientific nature constantly leak out and it does not like to see that you made exactly zero progress in years, instead trying to be on same chit chat level as nearest old guys discussing important question if this wheel can make it to Kazan.

  • On vaccines

    On 9 August 2020, the Federal Ministry of Health, Sudan notified WHO of the detection of a circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 (cVDPV2) in the country. According to the notification, the virus is genetically-linked with Chad (sequencing results showed 12 to 19 nucleotide changes). Two Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) cases were notified. The first case, a child of 48 months, had onset of paralysis on 7 March 2020 and was from Sulbi city of Kas locality in South Darfur state. The state is in the west of the country, bordering Central African Republic, South Sudan and close to the border with Chad. The second case, a child of 36 months, had onset of paralysis on 1 April 2020 and was from Shari city of AI Gedarif locality in Gedarif state in the east, close to the border with Eritrea and Ethiopia. Both children received the their last bOPV ( type 1 & 3) dose in 2019. Initial investigation indicates these cases are linked to cVDPV2s from the CHA-NDJ-1 emergence group which was first detected in October 2019 and is currently circulating in Chad and Cameroon. Eleven additional suspected cases have also been confirmed as cVDPV2 and field investigation reports are being consolidated. These cases are in the following states – Red Sea, West Darfur, East Darfur, White Nile, River Nile and Gezira. Hence, between 9 August and 26 August 2020, there have been a total of 13 cVDPV2 cases reported. Additionally, three cVDPV2-positive environmental samples from Soba, Elgoz and Hawasha sites from Khartoum were detected (samples collected on 29 March 2020). Sequencing of viruses isolated in Sudan so far reflects that the viruses are related with viruses reported earlier in neighboring Chad from where there were multiple separate introductions into Sudan from Chad. There is local circulation in Sudan and continued sharing of transmission with Chad.

    https://www.who.int/csr/don/01-september-2020-polio-sudan/en/

  • @Vitaliy....seems I remember some posts at the start of this discussion, that you possibly deleted or separated off from the main topic , where I was ridiculed by yourself and Mark about vaccines , esp the flu shot, actually causing the disease they're supposed to protect against. It seems you've changed your mind.

  • @Kurth I do remember you pointing out this before in this thread. In fact, more than once if I’m not wrong.

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  • How this two match?

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    Elites around the world found nice new approach - they reject any hospitalizations (and frequently also do not count as COVID positive) until lung damage becomes severe, as it becomes severe some will die at home and lot of other in hospital (but it will be much faster - either they die fast or the get better and as lung damage subside you can let them go home), but you could safely use some other illness (like pneumonia or diabetes) as main reason and after this also delay and distribute statistics.

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  • Dr. Carrie Madej .....

  • @kurth

    Video containing inaccurate claims about coronavirus vaccine trials, made by osteopath Carrie Madej, that has proved popular on social media. Carrie Madej's video makes a false claim that the vaccines will change recipients' DNA (which carries genetic information). "The Covid-19 vaccines are designed to make us into genetically modified organisms."

    Huh.

    Her own words

    I am an Osteopathic Internal Medicine Physician.

    Her claims about "completely new type of vaccine" are false, as far as I know non of known COVID vaccines are RNA vaccines (startups and big pharma still working on even first more or less working ones, but ti can be 10-20 years). All else also bullshit (like most vaccines already made it from phase 1 to phase 3 and in similar times, as it is phase 3 that is first phase where any actual mass testing starts).

    And to her surprise, genetically modified vegetables are usually better than so called usual types, as this former ones had been made using extreme radiation (around 99% of all modern varieties used radiation stage) and selecting among seeds that survived this (it is much much more damage than any genetic modification can do).

  • @Vitaliy...your response in less than 10 minutes. It looks like you're a disinfo agent for google or facebook ! Guess you'll line up first for your vaccine then. And since you have the habit of not linking your quotes, I think this came from bbc, right ? State media for the british empire . The same bbc that announced that wtc 7 tower had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually fell. Like I said before, the truth is never black and white.

  • @kurth

    Because I edited the post and I did not see her video on 1x speed and jumped forward in some parts where bullshit became extremely strong.

    Many of blocked youtube videos on COVID required not just blocking but emergency team sent to their authors to check brain damage and if they are dangerous to their own family due to severity of brain damage. Does not mean I support deleting them :-) Medical team had been much more human solution as with deleted videos this guys keep fighting with reality inside their brains.

  • @Vitaliy...maybe that happens where you come from lol. If you want to actually convince anyone....do the research into moderna and tell me what she said isn't true. https://www.modernatx.com/ ...."Messenger RNA, or mRNA, plays a fundamental role in human biology, transferring the instructions stored in DNA to make the proteins required in every living cell. Our approach is to use mRNA medicines to instruct a patient’s own cells to produce proteins that could prevent, treat, or cure disease."...right off their front page. Not some company I want shooting up my kids.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna .... https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/

  • @Vitaliy....and again...."And to her surprise, genetically modified vegetables are usually better than so called usual types, as this former ones had been made using extreme radiation (around 99% of all modern varieties used radiation stage) and selecting among seeds that survived this (it is much much more damage than any genetic modification can do)."...again, maybe where you come from, but where I live...we still eat normal veges grown from non monsanto seeds.

  • @kurth

    I prefer some more sane sources. And it is interesting info, I stand corrected on mRNA vaccines. Gates interview had statement that companies can't do it for now.
    Mordor one btw is adenovirus based one.

    As urgency mounts for a Covid-19 coronavirus vaccine, a key question for scientists is whether this pandemic will be the watershed moment for two new technologies that have never before seen widespread use in humans. If proven effective, these approaches could dramatically speed up the development of other new vaccines and drastically lower costs, heralding a new era in the fight against infectious disease.

    The main technologies gaining traction are vaccines that use an adenovirus vector and mRNA. Rather than construct a new vaccine from scratch, the idea behind these technologies is to use a standard set of parts, like a repurposed virus or a nanoparticle, to carry genetic material into a cell. That material — DNA or RNA — can then code for specific proteins from a virus.

    Once one of these delivery platforms are proven safe, it’s just a matter of tweaking DNA and RNA strands. That’s much faster than conventional vaccines, which involve culturing large quantities of viruses that are then weakened, inactivated, or separated into tiny fragments and purified — processes that require years of cumbersome trial-and-error and safety testing.

    “If the new platforms work in a way, that may actually change how other vaccines are produced,” Rahul Gupta, senior vice president and chief medical and health officer at the March of Dimes, told reporters during a National Press Foundation webinar on August 7. “So we may be at the cusp of very much a new technology that we’re going to see for the first time in over a century, basically.”

    Researchers using these new platforms have recently posted some encouraging results. On Thursday, the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer published results of its phase 1 and phase 2 clinical trials for its mRNA-based vaccine platform in the journal Nature. Moderna is now entering phase 3 trials for its mRNA platform for Covid-19.

    But with these new platforms, it’s not the spike protein of the virus that’s being injected, it’s the genetic instructions for making it. The main differences between mRNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines are the genetic material they use and how they get it into the cell. The mRNA vaccines use mRNA, while adenovirus vaccines use DNA.

    Because the adenovirus is a DNA virus, it has to get its genetic material not just into a cell but into the cell’s nucleus.

    “It goes into the nucleus, but it does not insert into the genome,” said Hildegund C.J. Ertl, a professor at the Wistar Institute’s Vaccine & Immunotherapy Center. “It’s a fairly transient effect.”

    Once in the nucleus, the DNA coding for the spike protein is transcribed into mRNA and then transported out of the nucleus into the cell’s cytoplasm, where it’s translated into protein.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13/21359025/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-moderna-oxford-mrna-adenovirus

    https://www.modernatx.com/modernas-work-potential-vaccine-against-covid-19

    Interesting idea can be that using coronavirus allowing to bring both new type of vaccines to usage fast and without any resistance.

  • @Vitaliy....I'm aware of mordors virus strategy. But vox is 'sane' ? Lol...really ? It was formed with a political agenda in mind. Do your research. You still haven't explained , why, if WHO admits gates vaccine has caused polio, why would anyone be so naive to trust any vaccine? And you didn't answer my question about taking yours. I hear it'll be ready in a few months. Me....I'll hangout and watch the show from the balcony.

  • And right out of Contagion, the movie...the US military will be issuing the vaccine....which apparently will skip the phase 3 part of the trial.... https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/fda-commissioner-is-willing-to-skip-phase-3-trials-on-covid-19-vaccine_08312020

  • @kurth

    Article I referenced is sane article where you actually can get useful info, contrary to horrible level video above.

    if WHO admits gates vaccine has caused polio

    You need to check how cheap polio vaccines are made.

    why would anyone be so naive to trust any vaccine?

    Because it is not about trust.

    All COVID vaccines can be produced extremely fast and cheap contrary to old vaccines. As it is literally viruses breeding on the culture of special cells. And it can be main issue also as virus replication is not perfect and contrary to previous vaccines where actual functioning was not required, here virus must work precisely and perfectly.