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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • CidCid

    @BurnetRhoades
    Actually Harris Savides "could" because he died early this year ;o)

    Zodiac is a great example, as "Benjamin Button", that was shot with the very same camera and it pushes it ahead since he "mimics"/emulates several film stocks through the movie. I´ve watched in a theater and it blew me away! Can´t get more "cinematic" than that! Cheers

  • Ian_TIan_T

    Nice. Some of those movies (really a number of them) I had no idea they were smaller than 35mm.

  • jrdjrd

    Anyone still determined to obsess over sensor size, despite a host of far more constraining production limitations (e.g., amateur writing? bad performances? less than stellar production values?), just repair here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Films_shot_in_Super_16

    There's also the not small number of low budget FF features which are out of focus. When shooting cheap and fast, DOF is usually welcome.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    @driftwood loved the rawhide clip; the young Clint Eastwood as Rowdy Yates. Look forward to a rolling shutter shootout.

  • BurnetRhoadesBurnetRhoades

    Which amount to seconds in a feature length motion picture. Wow.

  • brunoalmeidabrunoalmeida

    wiki "Fincher employed the digital Thomson Viper Filmstream camera to photograph the film, however Zodiac was not shot entirely digitally; traditional high-speed film cameras were used for slow-motion murder sequences."

  • BurnetRhoadesBurnetRhoades

    @belfryman

    I used to obsess over the sensor size of these but lensing and exposure control make a huge difference. ND + larger aperture lets you regain a more cinematic feeling DOF with a MFT or BMD's sensor sizes. When in doubt, forget about the test footage and punditry you see here and other DSLR sites and look to what DPs like Harris Savides can do with an even smaller sensor camera:

    ...that's from a 2/3" sensor, in the Thomson Viper. It's smaller than the BMPCC's sensor. Nobody here is shooting on that level. Savides could have talked Fincher out of shooting on that format if the result was going to be so un-cinematic as to be a mistake (and who wouldn't think so, given how bad Michael Mann's films shot on the same camera look?). But it doesn't scream video camera or un-cinematic at all. It sits rather comfortably alongside his other digitally-acquired films shot on RED.

  • sh1ggysh1ggy

    The first few clips I shot looked really nice. The footage does need some sharpening and of course a lot of grading to make it look even better, but all in all, I like it very much. Crop factor is a bit of a problem, I'm not getting as wide as I want to with my Tokina 11-16mm. But I think a Speed Booster should solve all problems on that front.

    Other than that, I'm really pleased. The dynamic range is awesome! And there's a hell lot of information in the highlights, even with ProRes!

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    Anyone who's got their pocket cam really happy with it? I had one on order but got shaken by some of the footage and the crop factor so now bought a BMCC, but not cancelled the pocket cam yet! Want to see if can convincingly use my remaining GH2 as B cam to the BMCC and if not will sell and keep pocket cam as B cam. Exciting times! confusing times!

  • sh1ggysh1ggy

    @gameb @peaceonearth My Pocket Cam was shipped last friday and I recieved it on monday (also ordered from BPM Hamburg).

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    @Nieuw ordered on 9th of April

  • mattherematthere

    Hi @Vitaliy hope you are managing to enjoy your "holiday" a bit :) there are probably quite a few folks here that are eagerly awaiting their pocket cameras that may arrive quite soon (maybe not that soon?) I am very interested in what you said about "Why BM will die soon" I do not want to interrupt your break and well earned rest, just saying that I for one am very keen to find out your views when you feel rested, thanks :)

  • NieuwNieuw

    @gameb @peaceonearth

    I am number 13 on BPM's list (ordered and paid: April 29).... seems to be the unlucky number.... patience needed to achieve good Karma...... however there seem to be quite some people in line behind me....

    Hans

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @gameb @peaceonearth

    You have 40 guys getting email with this fascinating talk :-)

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    no, it does not suck ;-) Be generous to achieve some karma benefit.

  • gamebgameb

    It sucks! I have the same dealer, but they only got 1 camera dispatched and that was for you I guess...

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    phone call from my dealer 10mins ago: camera arrived, we will ship today. (bpm Hamburg) YEAH! I ordered immediately still during NAB.

  • nomadnomad

    Yep, as you wrote: RAW.

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    @feonn

    BMCC has a resolution of 2432 x 1366px. If you open the chart file in a new window and zoom in you will see that it's full resolution. Still ouch.

  • feonnfeonn

    The frame should be seen at full resolution in order to see the real amount of moire. When reduced on the screen it appears much worse as it is. Many say you can clear it pretty much from raw... I hope mosaic engineering are going to make a VAF for the BM cameras soon or late.

  • _gl_gl

    @nomad, is the BMCC chart from ProRes or RAW?

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    outch.

  • nomadnomad

    The BMCC has a bit more resolution, but it is limited by massive moiré too…

    (Same lens as on BMPCC)

    Res_BMCC.jpg
    2400 x 1350 - 445K
  • azza_actazza_act

    Looks great!

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    @Imackreath

    The cheesycam footage is the closest I have seen to some well shot and stable footage out of the camera so far.

    Really? The cheesycam stuff is far from the best I've seen. Did you see JB's night stuff?

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