Nikon D5200 topic

mojo43

Holy crap that is awesome! Dammit, I really don't need another camera....

adventsam

Have you seen any other dslr this sharp and no moire? download the original!

LPowell

@adventsam The bottom line for me is what the D5200's shadow noise looks like at ISO 6400. At that gain level, the D5100's RAW images are quite usable, but look better when cleaned up with Neat Video. DxOMark's tests show closely matched signal-to-noise ratios between the D5200 and D5100 across most of their ISO ranges. What concerns me are reports that the D5200's new sensor suffers from perceptible banding and/or fixed pattern noise at high ISO's. If so, that would negate the D5200's half-stop edge in dynamic range over the D5100.

adventsam

Also, did you see this? http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Nikon-D5200-New-sensor-and-new-leader Ranked 11th best camera regardless of sensor size!(for stills, based on raw sensor dr/noise/colour depth measurements) the best Canon is 15th, FF.

adventsam

Yes indeed ;-) well he has a copy, looking forward to his results whichever way it falls, new entrants and technology that pushes things forward is good, no? seems you have gone all negative LPowell, remember those heady days of the GH1 and 2 hacks, well maybe its time to look at a Nikon hack? be a nice change.

LPowell

@adventsam

...by the way eoshd has copied my thoughts from this thread!

LOL, I rest my case.

adventsam

LOL, seems I'm not blind, well LPowell? by the way Voldemort has copied my thoughts from this thread!!!!!!!!!! http://www.eoshd.com/content/9586/is-the-cheap-nikon-d5200-a-better-option-than-d800-for-video-no-moire-aliasing-and-good-detail

adventsam

If the d600 goes into meltdown whenever it sees a few horizontal or straight lines then it ain't much use? My point is from what I can tell the new Toshiba sensor doesnt' suffer ailiasing-moirie like the Sony sensor has been prone too in every other dslr except Canon, who have sort of fixed it in the 5dmk3, but Canon is SOFT as xxxx image. If people want an organic-filmic flat image then this seems to be going in the right direction, that's all, but I think yes based on youtube I wouldn't go near the d600 with a barge pole, wheras the d5200 looks like a contender, Sony have a bit of comeptition brewing and Canon might be wise to take a look too at Toshiba and move away from their legacy sensors?

LPowell

@adventsam

d5200 is far far superior than d600 for video.

And you're making this claim based on a comparison of YouTube videos?

adventsam

Look at colour striping-alaising-moirie of d600? yuk. d5200 is far far superior than d600 for video.

adventsam

Yes, the d5100 is a bragain, relatively speaking, but d5200 looks as if it in another league, relatively speaking ;-)

LPowell

The Pocket Lint review raises a viewfinder focusing issue that I had a related experience with. I have a Nikon D5100 camera and a Sigma 28mm f1.8 lens that works beautifully with it. Another Nikon shooter tried this lens with his D7000 and had the same focusing issues described in the following article:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/49243/nikon-d5200-sharpness-issues-mirror-slap-autofocus-system-d7000-error

So the speculation is the problem may be in the 39-point autofocus system shared by the D7000 and D5200, but not the D5100.

The other major difference between D5xxx models is the 16Mpix sensor in the D5100 versus the 24Mpix sensor in the D5200. While they both seem to offer very broad dynamic ranges, I have not seen the kind of high-ISO banding issues on the D5100 that the article pointed out in the D5200. The increased pixel resolution of the D5200 must also produce very different video moire patterns, which Nikons are more susceptible to than Panasonic cameras.

My take is that if I wanted 24Mpix resolution for still photography, I wouldn't settle for an APS-C sensor, I'd wait for Nikon to fix the problems with the D600. In the meantime, current sale prices on the D5100 make it an outrageous bargain for a 16Mpix Nikon with a 14-bit RAW sensor and a swiveling LCD screen.