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  • We are talking about a standard zoom lens. Usually a standard zoom lens suffers from optical distortion since its focal length spans from slightly wide to slightly tele. A standard zoom is mostly about convenience, I think. For photography, it's easy to fix optical distortion. But it ain't easy for videography. So a standard zoom isn't for those who can't bear with distortion.

  • @johnmw and @valpopando this lens has extrordinary high amount of barrel distortion. By its long end something between 2-3% and by its wide end nearly 6%. It seems that in-camera correction of such amount of distortion faces the CPU of the camera close to its limits. I belive the jitter is just result of that.

    I've placed my order for this lens last summer, but after I saw serious test of this lens by Photozone.de, I decided to cancel my order short before the lens was in stock. I am not interested in lens with such amount of optical distortion, although all other features of this lens are great.

  • @johnmw Hey mate did you check my post above ! I got your same issue on GH2 !

  • I encountered a major problem with my Panasonic 12-35mm/F2.8 ASPH X lens. When mounted on my GH3 and placed on a tripod, even with Power Image Stabilization OFF, the image frequently shimmers. There's a lateral movement in the image. This happens more frequently when the camera is angled downward. The camera is mounted on a Sachtler FSB8 head and Gitzo legs. It's sturdy and totally locked down, and there is no movement near the camera to cause camera shake.

    It's as if the image stabilization is on or the lens motors are moving, when obviously they shouldn't be. When the IS switch on the lens is set in the "off" position, the camera correctly reports that image stabilization is off.

    I see the shakiness / jitter via HDMI on to my SmallHD DP6 monitor in 1:1 mode, so it's definitely in the record chain itself, and not in post-record.

    I can recreate the problem with my GH2 that I thankfully still have for testing.

    The camera is on full manual mode, 1920x1080/24 fps. Changing between 50MBps or 72MBps All-I makes no difference -- same results. It's really strange.

    The 12-35mm shot is followed by a 14-140mm shot for comparison using the same setup. This particular example was shot with the lenses at 35mm. These shots are blown up 200% in Premiere. The camera is about 2' from the book shown above, and it's tilted downward about 30 degrees. (Apologies for the composition and exposure, this is just one example of my many tests with similar results.) Even at 100% the jitter is noticeable and the shot -- say an interview or any static subject -- would not be usable.

    I'm using lens firmware v1.1 (the latest as of this posting). I suspect that my lens is a lemon, but I'm curious if any others have experienced this issue?

  • I should mention that I finally found something wrong with the Lumix 12-35mm. Last week I was shooting some breathing tests on a number of different lenses, I have a variety of FF gears, some redrock and then the cinevate that works on just about anything. If you try putting a FF gear on the Lumix 12-35 focus ring, even the slightest compression on the focus ring wants to lock up the focus. If anyone else has had this experience maybe they can confirm.

    There may be a wireless FF solution in the pipeline from Panasonic or maybe even a third party, at present the Panasonic Lumix Link app won't give you a live view image so not much help there.

  • If there were only an active µFT mount for the future BMCC…

  • Wow, tough room. I've been using the 12-35 for about 3 months, almost entirely for video on the Gh2 and af100. I quit doing rolling zooms probably around 2004 when the EP of the company I worked for kept making jokes about "unnecessary zooms", so to be honest I've never tried a rolling zoom with this lens. One thing I have tried a lot is shooting video in S mode and relying on the auto iris when moving from exterior to interior or vice versa, my experience has been very positive and I am comfortable suggesting that if you need any AF or auto iris function in your work this is the best lens available for m43. It is also monstrously sharp. I was previously using the Tokina 11-16, which while very good optically, has to be seen as a compromise compared to the Lumix 12-35.

  • I have mixed feelings about it. It was very useful in the mountains and with a strong ND filter I could get nice shots with shallow DOF. But the image stabilization was really weak (on GH3). Did anyone experience the same trouble with OIS? BTW; here is the link to a snowboarding video shot with mainly GH3 and 12-35mm.

  • ... some DOF test !

  • I'll agree it looks very clinical, doesn't mean it doesnt have a use. Have they fixed the stair-stepping aperture issue with the new firmware update? Last I heard there were no issues on the gh3s....

    any examples of this lens being used in something narrative? all I can find are landscape travel videos.

  • From what I've seen it looks to video like for anything "cinema". Stick with manual primes for that but it's just my two cents. :)

  • Hey Amazon is running 200$ off on this lens if bought with a new gh2, about to jump on that. How do you guys think this lens is for cinema? (not wedding video or anything else, just short films)

  • Thank a lot @jjay to share our issue here , in the hope of understanding why it happens, and if it is happening to someone else.

    for more information : I got two GH2 Bodies ! one hacked and one unhacked ( jittering still on both cameras)

    Panasonic repleaced three lenses with 3 different serial number ( XT2F / XT2G/ XT2H in all three cases I found the same issue in slightly different way )

    sometimes the jittering goes away without a reason, ois on ois off - AF C / S or manual

    If there is a way to contact Panasonic global for that ? cause Italian Assistance can not give me an explanation

    Thanks Valerio

    password : jitter

  • I've just tried the same test on mine.

    GH2 (hacked with apocalypse now) mounted on tripod with 12-35mm lens, zoomed in to 35mm, ISO160, f5 Manual focus, OIS off, Tele conv ON,

    Although I can see a very slight jitter on the original video sample reffered to above, I can't see any jitter on my video (??) but this was a one-off quick test.

    I've uploaded the original MTS file, straight from the camera to vimeo

    hxxp://vimeo.com/55289335

    (replace hxxp with http )

    password; jitter

  • Gh3 owners are saying that Gh3 shows no such jitter.

  • Got a mail from an Italian user that discovered jitter problems with the lens in combination with GH2. Mine has it too...! Best noticable in 35mm when taking macro shots on tripod.

    vimeo.com/55215642 password : jitter

    Any thoughts on that ?

  • @vicharris Hoping. Know of any places local to rent the lens? Just out of my budget range.

  • @5thwall Maybe it's good to go now!

  • OK, I did the lens update (ver. 1.1) and it works without problems on my GH2. I have the feeling that the flicker issue is much softer now when filming. Without filming it makes this well known noise while zooming, but when I'm filming video the lens is silent and brightness jumps are only hardly noticable now. So this update gets a go from me.

  • I've heard that the 12-35 has flicker issues when zooming on the GH2 but not the GH3. Is that true? Potentially doing a news story overseas next month and it seems like the perfect lens for keeping my setup light.

  • Firmware 1.1 should improve AF speed on the GH3, that's all announced directly by Panasonic. The rumors say it will also allow continuous AF on the E-M5....

  • Today Panasonic released a firmware update for 12-35/f2.8. What do you think, will it only improve autofocus speed on GH3 or will GH2 also benefit of it? I'm afraid of trying it out because I do not have to old firmware and the possibility to return to it.

  • I've been using a 12-35mm Panny zoom on my GH2.

    It is very sharp and clinical, great for some footage, not ideal for some genres I guess. The Image Stabilization is very good, for handheld work. The autofocus is very quick. For me it seems a good capable all-round lens, especially for hand held run n' gun shooting where OIS and AF may be used in a hurry. For more artistic usage/looks other lenses may be a far better choice.

    Example - Footage from 1:30 onwards has been shot using a a 12-35mm Panny zoom on a GH2 hacked with one of Driftwoods Apocalypse hacks) (Rough edit, not finished, work-in-progress)