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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • My BMPCC has vertical bars on the left side and the small Canadian shop I bought it from has authorized a free RMA warranty exchange without having to wait for Blackmagic to repair the unit. If anyone is curious about how the BMPCC ProRes 4:2:2 footage looks through an anamorphic lens I have uploaded a quick and dirty bedroom video - one version is ungraded, the other very much graded (don't try this level of saturation at home). Yes, the video is shaky - makes for a great rolling shutter test. ISO 1600 shutter 360 degrees film mode 29.97 fps - Leica Summicron f2 50mm - Bell & Howell 1.75x anamorphic modified to focus at 3 feet. Original unedited ungraded footage:

    Descoped and color graded in Lightworks Pro Beta v11.1.1.Q:

  • @Stylz You mean Deebo...yep.

  • @vicharris You weren't kidding: looks like fun! It's always awesome to see the pocket out in the wild on a proper shoot. It's still hard to believe that tiny camera produces the images it does (I should say CAN, in the right hands). @Shian How are they cutting together? Are you needing to sharpen the pocket or blur the 2.5k or anything like that to get them to match?

  • Is that B-bo?

  • Here's some behind the scenes of a shoot with @Shian with both the 2.5K and the Pocket. Made me realize an EVF is a must, even with the Ikan D5W.

    Shian was operating the Pocket in the Rolls from the back seat while we had the 2.5K mounted on the side.

    Can't wait to see the final, graded stuff!

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  • @kholi Hey man can you send me a link to that Sony HDMI cable the works for it? I bought one (cheapo) but maybe the plug going into the camera is too long seems to stick out? It wont show up on my lilliput and on my HDTV it says some bs about signal.

  • Here are my very first shoots with my beloved BMPCC. Unfortunateley, I used only Oly 12-50 F3,5-5,6...

    Please, is there any solution to export 10bit 422 in Adobe Premiere Pro CC? Thanks!

  • Here is my BMPCC cage. It's a nice tight fit, and gives lots of rigging options.

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  • This is a fantastic little camera that packs a punch. If I was a photojournalist or someone who was out running and gunning a ton.. then this camera would be in my pocket

    http://provideocoalition.com/pvcexclusive/story/the-blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-review

  • @shian Yep but that's a $15 add on. I'm going to remove it. Maybe just put it on for travel to keep the amazing screen safe :)

    Screen is still complete crap. Going to buy an Alphatron or Cineroid EVF this week for both cameras.

  • @vicharris is that the cage that has all that glare? Cuz I love the look and feel of it, but the plexi has got some killer glare on it.

  • The BMPCC MFT camera arrived new today from a small Canadian store and was out of the box for an hour when this was taken. I actually asked them to open and try it out before sending it out, they said it was OK regarding orbs and black spots... Left edge shows vertical bars that are constant throughout various exposure and camera setting modes. The vertical bars are clearly apparent and do not disappear into the blacks regardless of exposure setting or lens used (Olympus M.Zuiko 14-42, 40-150, various Voigtlander and Leica primes). I have made available on YouTube unedited unconverted footage with no grading straight from camera in ProRes 4:2:2 Film Mode. ISO 200 and 45 Degree shutter, color balance at 5600K. Two second interval time lapse recording. f-stop progresses from f16 through to f2 at the end. Focus distance begins at infinity and is set to 100ft at the end. Did not stop to reset ISO to 800 as this is not a dynamic range test. Leica Summicron M DR f2 50mm M mount lens, Panasonic M to MFT adapter.

    The GUI is indeed klunky, the screen is tough to judge color balance and exposure on, even with zebras, you'll need the sekonic. Playback of files glitches at the start and plays parts of previous movies in the current clip, forward/backward navigation across clips has delays. Build is solid and the grip holds well, though the battery almost falls out once the compartment is opened. The 16mm type grain is cute, but also means I won't be hanging up the canon scoopics anytime soon when solid blacks are called for. I included recent 16mm film grain and saturation comparison links from my own development below. I am a software tester and understood the risks of getting this camera, still, something makes me think a few more cancelled orders and GH3 purchases will motivate BM to get on top of the quality before shipping out units with obvious defects. Now how am I going to get this fixed, .ca -> .au -> .ca?

    newly exposed and developed but thoroughly expired (ie: supposedly very grainy) 16mm canon scoopic ms footage for comparison:

  • Thanks Brian202020 and Vicharris for the info, Do you recommend the cage basic kit or just the cage, i am starting to rig this thing up and see what is the best option. Thanks again for the info and advise for everything

  • I have it. Love it and makes the camera lookmmean

  • @apix

    Many have the ViewFactor cage and they all seem to like it.

  • Anybody using the viewfactor cage and set up by any chance on their BMPCC?

  • @Renovatio The ProRes works amazingly well in Vegas, you just have to make sure you have the Apple quicktime decoder installed in Windows, but I think it is now a standard part of the Quicktime installation. I've been grading directly from Vegas with Magic Bullet Looks and am blown away by the quality of the output I am seeing. The DNG I cannot speak to (yet) with Vegas.

  • @spacewig

    Please give the results of your RAW GH vs ProRes BMPCC test here, not just a PM to VK. Also, looks like RAW BMPCC is near, so please repeat DR test when that is released. Thank you.

  • Hi guys, would like to know if i can work wit cinema DNG raw files and ProRes without problem in Sony Vegas (the software currently i have and prefer), and making CC not in Davinci (cause it's heavy, i hear) but in After Effect (where i have many plug in). Thanks.

    Also, how can i order it and if i do now the camera will take so many months or it comes soon? Thanks a lot.

  • So heres a link to my shoot from the weekend. I didnt get to edit as long as I wanted to unfortunately. They wanted it out ASAP. Anywho, I would like to share my first experience with the pocket camera.

    Amazing DR - great flexibility in colouring. Post production is fun with the files it creates no doubt. But its being on the field that made things hard!

    Screen - as you've all read, useless bright situations. it looked like it was fogged up constantly and wasn't bright enough. I wish the preview Dynamic Range in Video setting would be more saturated. It was hard to tell if the white balance was the right one to use. It just looked brown all day.

    Focus Peaking - not sensitive enough. the first day (airport, gift shop and city streets), i shot mainly with the Lumix 14mm and the peaking was either everywhere or spot on. It just didnt show enough of the green fuzzies to tell me if its in focus or not. Second day (all field/outdoors and kids shots), I used a 28mm FD lens all day. The hard part was the focus peaking never showed. I was saved by the monitor I had because of its peaking feature which was very sensitive helped including the fact that it had a 1x zoom to check focus as well.

    Great for run and gun! just gotta watch out for the batteries if you have the tiny ones. The countdown drops literally every minute. Get a battery solution. I used the cheap 12v batteries from ebay and they are perfect!

    So I hope you enjoy the video, I wish I got to edit it more. I'll probably do that and change the file online when I finally get it to what I really want. Thanks! Cant wait to see you're guy's work!

  • Sure. Give me few days as I'm back to work tomorrow. I'll PM you when I have data.

  • @spacewig

    So, to be clear. Can you compare DR from GH2 RAW (downsized) and BMPCC ProRes?

    I do not ask if video or photo are same or not. I want to just see real sensor potential.

  • Yes, but photo DR and video DR are never the same in a DSLR. Also, I am not shooting RAW on BMPCC as only prores is available. I don't own a GH3.

  • @spacewig

    Can you make testing using RAW photo from GH2 / GH3 downsized to video resolution? I mean comparison with BMPCC.