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GH3 rumors topic
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  • sam_rides_a_mtbsam_rides_a_mtb

    I think you mean G5 -you can delete this post, please

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @LongJohnSilver

    They mean G5. And they missed with their previous predictions concerning G5 :-) As I said, all things published before camera becomes available to press have about 10-15% probability on this sites (unless it is intentional company leak).

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    I see on several rumors sites that a big announce is expected for this month...

    Just speculations?

  • B3GuyB3Guy

    "And doesn't anyone make a freaking camera where you can get the card AND the battery out AND leave it on the tripod?"

    ^This.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    All the features of a Vixia G10, especially focus tracking, monster battery, working zoom, lower noise, hp/mic jack, volume control, but with the hacked GH2 driftwood or flowmotion or [your hack here] ability to render detail and push the color in post. Lens correction without the sharpening for the 14mm especially. Or label the contact I have to tape over. Did I mention monster battery? Oh, right. Oh yes, and the new Olympus IS system, why not? And the screen from my Samsung Infuse OLED. Just rip it out of the phone and tape it right on. Please. Right now. And doesn't anyone make a freaking camera where you can get the card AND the battery out AND leave it on the tripod?

  • RamboRambo

    Yes thanks VK, all the consumer orientated stuff I expect, sure miss the old LANC days through :-(

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Rambo

    I think you'll get you remote, in the form on any phone, just using wi-fi direct. And capacitive touchscreen you also will get.

  • RamboRambo

    Not likely to happen and call me old fashioned if you like, but I would love a infra red remote rather than a touch screen with fingerprints all over it.

  • AriaAria

    I would be happy to see Panasonic do what Canon and Nikon did in terms of HDMI output, Mic level adjustment and Headphone out.

    As for DR, I believe that they should be looking to improve that and I doubt that they would put out a GH3 without having addressed this. Also i'd LOVE 4:2:2 color.

    I also agree that improvements to the LCD, EVF and as I said earlier HDMI out would pretty much be high on the list.

    One thing that they could do to kind of separate themselves from the pack would be to offer a 120 FPS at 1080 overcrank in camera. This would seem IMO to be something modern processors can handle already and with the quality of the GH sensor could be a really nice bonus. Naturally the record times would be short, but if they give the feature legit quality, people would accept it. 8-10 seconds at a high frame rate at full quality would be awesome.

  • ZekoZeko

    I kinda like the half-touchscreen idea....keep the buttons, and use the touchscreen only when absolutely necessary (like to focus on something, or move the histogram around).

    I saw how some people struggle with the touchscreen-only from the sony VG20, it looks like a real pain in the a**.

    But clearly, a better screen resolution would be a must... and a screen that displays what the camera actually records, not some brighter image.

  • johnnymossvillejohnnymossville

    8 bit is still pretty good but 10 bit would be nice. A tiny bit more DR, and a bit of work on the picture profiles and I'll be a happy camper. I'm really liking the look of the Olympus OM-D. With Panasonic's capabilities in video we are going to have another great on our hands like we already have with the GH2.

    Maybe a high frame rate 720p mode would be nice. Something like 120fps at 720p. that would be amazing and would set Panasonic apart from anything the competition is offering in it's price range, even if it is at a lower bitrate.

  • fehafeha

    I hope they make 1080p 50 (60) frames ... A better/cleaner HDMI output. Double SD cards ... Better USB with remote control features ...

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Do something about the 2X Crop Factor - it's the worst pain in the neck. We're having VERY hard time getting simple wide angle video shots that are not FishEye at 28mm.

    Very strange proposition. I see no problems with wide angle lenses. As for m43 crop factor - it is best on the market.

    Give us the 12 or 13 stops of a Dynamic Range.

    You can make fantasies whole day. GH3 will improve DR, but no way it'll have 13 stops DR.

    Give us a true 4:4:4 . If it means changing the codec and recording RAW onto a SSD, well -- so be it.

    Another fantasy. It is consumer camera. Period.

    You guys at Panasonic need to really step up your game with ISO.

    Alwasy check words you write. Panasonic sensors are absolutely on par with Canon or any other modern sensors. Sometimes they are better than them. Just smaller :-)

    Audio. decent mic plugs, options to record 24bit/48kHz and 24bit/96kHz WAV.

    Yeah, XLR :-) Pray for 3.5mm jack.

  • mrbillmrbill

    I can pretty much live with the GH2 except for it's poor low light performance, the ridiculous iso bug and the nonsense with the lcd gamma change. Those of you holding out for 10bit, 4:2:2 better start saving for another camera.

  • kronstadtkronstadt

    The improvements on GH3 will depend entirely on a single question: does Panasonic view GH3 as primarily being a Photo camera, or does it intend to take the large (and growing) community of hacked GH13 and GH2 video users seriously?

    If it's the former, then don't expect to many improvements, as they will reserve those for their failed AF101 line. But they will have to work VERY VERY hard to put up a serious challenge against the specs of the Black Magic Design Camera, especially at that price point. (Personally, if I would have to choose between a £1000 GH3 (with only minor improvements) or much improved AF101 for £4000, and BlackMagic camera for £2000, guess what I'd choose? Definitely BM!!!)

    If it's the later, and Panasonic does indeed choose to target the video DSLR market, then they will have to take their ear plugs out and LISTEN to the community here at personal-view.com!!!!! Here's my list of feature requests:

    1) Do something about the 2X Crop Factor - it's the worst pain in the neck. We're having VERY hard time getting simple wide angle video shots that are not FishEye at 28mm. At ultra-wide angle, well, it's simply impossible (I never heard of a rectilinear 7mm lens that would give me a 14mm on M4/3). What can be done? I don't know... you're the inventors. Make the Ex Tele mode much more powerful and recording at true 1080p at least! Bring back LA7200, improve it and sell it at affordable prices! Do something!

    2) Hire @Vitaliy_Kiselev for a year on a big fat cheque. And make him head of the team of video engineers for GH3. Or at least, release a camera that is not too hard to hack, and we'll do the rest ;D

    3) Give us the 12 or 13 stops of a Dynamic Range. We may not need 2K or 4K on GH3, but a good dynamic range is a must.

    4) Give us a true 4:4:4 . If it means changing the codec and recording RAW onto a SSD, well -- so be it.

    5) Resolve the rolling shutter! Really, it's not funny.

    6) You guys at Panasonic need to really step up your game with ISO. Learn from Canon (I hate to say this, really.).

    7) Audio. decent mic plugs, options to record 24bit/48kHz and 24bit/96kHz WAV.

    8) Make the flipout screen bigger and make it into a touchscreen with a nice GUI (your Quick Menu is not Quick at all. ISO, WB etc can all be changed from the touch screen). Once the screen has flipped out, please allow us to lock it in that position (otherwise it falls when you add a viewfinder).

    These are my thoughts on what features I'd like to see. Like I said, it will all depend of how Panasonic thinks what this camera is. If I don't see significant improvements on GH3, I hate to say this, but I will begin saving up for BM camera or maybe another such camera(s) that will definitely show up soon.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @duartix

    Good advice - do not read rumors if you want to get info about GH3 so early. After it goes to the press, they could provide the leaks :-).

    As for RAW cameras, they are made for their purpose today. You won't see raw in consumer camera for a while.

  • duartixduartix

    Different exposures in different sensor lines? This stuff: http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-patent-shows-describes-a-new-sensor-tech/#comments has got VIDEO written on it all over! :)

    If it made it to the GH3 together with a better codec, it would be goodbye RAW cameras...

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Btw, H264 encoder in GX1 firmware already has partial support for 1080p50 and 1080p60 modes (at 28Mbit).

  • AKEDAKED

    I still would like to see the AF tracking being implemented in the GH3.

  • ZekoZeko

    @bwhitz : nah, Belgium, and i'm educated in the french-speaking side, where no movie can be bankable, they all rely heavily on state-sponsored subsidies and tax shelters, which are all in the hands of the socialists. These people spit on entertainment, all they want are pseudo-artistic poor filmmaking about crappy poor depressing people. Most of their high ranking officials have zero understanding of any technical aspect in cinema.... if you want the job, you must show a big camera or a rig, so they think "uhm, looks professional enough", but usually sucking up to the right people and defending socialist ideas should be enough :D

    On the flemish side, they are building a real film industry, with american-style filming. I'm trying to work my way into there as screenwriter first.

  • christianhubbardchristianhubbard

    @Dazza... that battery grip idea is GENIUS.

  • DazzaDazza

    I can think of a couple of ways they have their cake and eat it too. One would be to have different purchasable firmware configurations or an appstore of sorts, but consumers generally don't like the idea of paying twice as much for something that is just software limited, I would like it myself because you would only pay for the features that you needed.

    The other way would be to have 2 battery grips, one a conventional photography based vertical grip that would be cheap, two a video focused grip/module attachment, that could have things like XLR inputs, microphone monitoring, highspeed bus to SSD or multi memory cards, pure HDMI output, higher colorspacing. People are generally more tolerant of hardware based expansion.

    Either option would let them aim at multi markets and price brackets

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @brianluce

    Come on b, now they're supposed to edit and score the damn thing too? You're out of control.

    Yes I am. This is true. :) But yea, I do believe the director should be the final editor. Having an assistant editor to assemble the footage is logical. But how can you properly direct actors if you don't know the rhythm of the edit and where the cuts are going to go? The beats and pauses in acting and editing are crucial for the tone of the scene.

    And for scoring, yea, that's probably a stretch... but Reason isn't too hard to learn. There's no reason a director couldn't bang out a few rough chords and melody though. Even myself, being as amateur status as I am, can't help not hearing the score when writing scenes. Shouldn't the "big guys" have developed this even further?

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Real directors must do it all by themselfs. Yep, including music (not just score, but play it on all instruments), special effects, stunts.

    haha. This is why I specifically said "all of the major creative film crafts (him/her)self". I meant all the jobs that encompass film-making. You can make films without SPX, stunts, and costumes. But you cannot make films (in the traditional sense) without camera work and editing. :)

    @Zeko

    But in my country we know of directors who are only people full of money and who pay the best technics and actors to play in a movie that they paid the best screenwriters to write. And those directors don't do anything, not even directing actors, they have people to do that. All they do is say "ok to this idea" "not ok to that idea", and shout "action". That's disgusting, but it's how it works, and they sit on the top of a pyramid of power, deciding over the careers of these technics, and they get interviewed on TV, get all the credit...

    So... you're in the US and live in Los Angeles then? ;)

    It won't cost more "technically", but because a camera is gifted with 4K, marketeers might make us pay twice as much.

    Yea, this pretty much the reason we'll never see it. Unless they name it something new like 4k constant-photo mode. But we all know they really don't care this much...

  • ghkqnghkqn

    For me, what I would like to see on GH3 is better photo capabilities. I find the photos taken with GH1 or GH2 subpar even to the Ricoh GRDx or the decade old E-1, let alone competing against OM-D or the likes of Canon and Nikon. I hate lugging one camera for photos and an another camera for video. I would add weather sealed and 1080/60p or 50p (since even the Sony HX9v or RX100 can do that already). And how about some digital filter presets to emulate Kodak Vision 3 and Fuji film looks? The market for DSLR is sure getting crowded, the performance bar keeps improving, and Panasonic is going to need some true differentiators.

  • duartixduartix

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev said: "Real directors must do it all by themselfs. Yep, including music (not just score, but play it on all instruments), special effects, stunts."

    The last I heard he died in 1977: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin

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