Yup, that's exactly what I'm also seeing. The raw noise performance is identical until ISO 6400. I have a strong feeling the video looks improved cause Panasonic has introduced a very good spatial temporal noise reduction in the GH5s which cleans the image much better compared to the GH5 NR algorithm.

At low ISOs, shot noise dominates. Shot noise is usually similar across cameras, being a function of the noise inherent to the light combined with transmission losses through the filters, fill factor, and quantum efficiency. As the ISO is raised, read noise becomes a large factor. Read noise depends on the particular design of the sensor.

@Sph1nxster

My advice, wait one more year for the GH6.

It is strong inside rumor that Panasonic really want to copy Sony and fragment GH line as much as possible.

So, it can be as I wrote, that it won't be new GH6 for 2 year at least and it'll be instead new member of GH line. May be something like G9 in GH5 case and cheaper EVF.

@kin869

You can always just turn off IBIS when you don't need it. I can understand it if they can't implement IBIS because of technical or physical limitations (i.e. heat, size), but to say that they didn't include it because it's not required for "professionals" is a a bit silly.

Never listen that managers tell you as reason. Because usually they have no idea.

I am 99% sure that they had been forced to do this due to better cooling, to keep some minimal advantage of GH5s.

From a true professional rigging standpoint IBIS is a pain in the ass.

For guerrilla and low budget productions (which is now almost 80% of production content on web) is perfect.

Gives the bad operator a good camera movement and for the client the ´´feel´´, ending with a better product overall.

In real speaking, from truth, IBIS is grate tech, gives smoothness on shots where if not there, would be very difficult if not impossible to shot it understandingly. But that is where proper use of image with varied technics, real resources from a cinematographic stand point, is that IBIS is just one more tech, is not a language. So its not IMPORTANT for the video oriented GH5S.

In fact any DP would be happy to trade, robustness and low noise, for IBIS.

(...so the floating sensor on the grip car cam....hmmm...ok...all days of shooting and no damage on shortime.... there are 14 episodes dude... dont you have those GH5S? on the truck)

@tylerknight

Does it show automatic video exposure values in P, A, S and auto iso? Thanks.

@DrDave

is junk in terms of resolution. It gives me a headache to look at it. Could it really be that bad? Or did they mess up the test.....

I wonder too if the test is right. The GH5S JPGs (about 4k res) are very detailed and clean.

That video still from @Vesku (Slashcam) would seem to show that the video is junk in terms of resolution. It gives me a headache to look at it. Could it really be that bad? Or did they mess up the test.....

I have a strong feeling the video looks improved cause Panasonic has introduced a very good spatial temporal noise reduction in the GH5s which cleans the image much better compared to the GH5 NR algorithm.

Or just stronger raw level NR :-)

@Eno

yep

Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5S added to studio scene comparison at Dpreview: https://www.dpreview.com/news/2333575124/panasonic-lumix-dc-gh5s-studio-scene-posted

For people in a hurry, who needs to shoot and edit fast for immediate delivery, broadcast or upload, a noise-free camera is very welcome because avoids the slow denoise process and can do a realtime editing, fast workflow.

For people who have the time for denoise, a less expensive camera with IBIS can be more useful, Lumix G9 would be good enough.

The only way Sony can "kill" Panasonic is by being to close one another. Sony will eventually overheat and also fry the Panasonic along with it. :)

haha, classic quote worthy!

With the camera in Creative Movie Mode, set the shutter angle to 180 degrees to eliminate rolling shutter and to give a cinematic look.

Wow.

The average photo gear reviewer (if you are being generous) barely knows what they're talking about when it comes to photo gear. And when it comes to video features.... just absolutely hopeless.

Is that how to eliminate rolling shutter? I always thought you had to roll the camera.....

Of course Dave, you're meant to tilt the camera in the opposite angle that the rolling shutter is leaning in! ;-)

This article reports that the GH5S is capable of 14 stops of dynamic range, properly calibrated. https://www.mysterybox.us/blog/2018/1/8/panasonic-gh5s-hdr10 Opinions?

Wait for truly independent reviews to come out once shipping. But I have seen that figure reported a number of times. Certainly if the massively improved lowlight gives it much cleaner shadows then in terms of usable DR it will have gone up.

NONE of my Panasonics have IBIS. I can live without it for the BENEFIT of better low light.

Same here. Own lots of Panasonic, but zero with IBIS.

The lack of light is my biggest enemy since I do a lot of Live Events like Concerts, Weddings and other situations where I can't use video lights.

Do you already own T0.95 lenses and/or a focal reducer? Such as the RJ Lens Turbo:

https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9086/rj-lens-turbo-m43-adapters/p1