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Still not selling my GH2
  • New video I did for our local rock festival. GH2 with nikkor ais lenses, and Canis Majoris settings.

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  • Thanks. We'll see if the GH5 is good enough to replace his great grandpa.

  • Looking great inqb8tr! Honestly it's a shame to retire a camera that's capable of producing such a nice images!

  • Guys, tommorow the GH5 arrives. This is the last documentary shot with 2 Gh2 cameras, Nebula patch, HBR mode. Film was finished just two days ago. Gh2 goes to a long due and deserved retirement, but with a bang.

  • Hello, Nick driftwood! I'm very glad to see and hear you! GH2 - Unrivaled camera! Thanks to you and your work with Vitali!

  • Tungsten is the best foton after carbon arch old tech.

    Sensors like it much better than digital light mediums as any light with ekectric balast is.

    Tungsten foton behaves better, more rough and rawish than other lights. Bending this kind of light is much dificult and requires more time. But on Gh2 sensor it shines on its own.

    I wish 4x4 tranform for gh5 should be a game changer alone on 4k. The prossesor has the power. Even 2x2.

    I still use my gh2. Not so much as i used to but it still holds it own on some type of projects when a sure organic soft but detailed ook is asked for. Like fashion films, or narrative with heavy character on image.

    Holds better in post that the 4k 4/3 camera the hvx200. Way more. Gh2 codec can be pushed ALOT. On moon t8 and t7 special attention

  • @MirrorMan thanks, nice town, before cruise ships tear it down completely.

    Its funny to see how much we fuss about what we don't have instead of appreciating and fully utilizing what we do have.

    Totally agree.

  • @inqb8tr Nice work. I've always heard good things about Kotor.

  • Here is the documentary that we finished a month ago. Shot with two GH2's. Talking heads blah blah b-roll kind of production.

    Check out scene with string trio at 6:00, it was shot in a studio lit with several 100 and 200w tungsten skirted chinaballs, 800w readheads with full CTB and gobos for back / rim light, modified tungsten bulbs as practicals in the background, and room was filled with light haze from a machine. It was lit 360 degrees so we could circle around. Virtually no color grading.

  • It is a shame that most 4K content will be watched on handheld devices... kind of like watching 'Lawrence of Arabia' on an iPad instead of in 70mm cinemascope. I've received nothing but compliments about the image quality of my films shot with the GH2 and vintage lenses when projected on the big screen (including some amazing 4K Christie projections). Believe me, in the end your faults are much more likely to be issues related to lighting, framing, focusing, editing, sound, acting, script etc, than image quality. All this thanks thanks to a great little camera and this community. Its funny to see how much we fuss about what we don't have instead of appreciating and fully utilizing what we do have.

  • GH2 still rocks @inqb8tr the 4x4 transform alone (across the whole picture) is of much finer fidelity than most h264 cameras of recent years (which do mainly 8x8, 4x4 for edges only). I still have 3 that I use for HD multicam jobs.

  • @Dark_Blue

    GH2 with certain settings* (*let's not forget how this community came about) still looks better than GH5. In HD. In 23.976/25/30p. It sounds blasphemous maybe, but it could be a long conversation.

    But all other things mentioned have finally made GH5 a worthy option for an upgrade, eventhough it looks like shit mostly, but I think it is that new 12-something Pana-"Leica" lens is that is horrible, and that the sensor can be decent with decent lens. Ever since Panasonic changed sensor manufacturer, or whatever, from GH3 on, it never again had that vibe that brought attention to their products in all the years from DVX100 all the way to the GH2.

    Why I consider that upgrade, if we've agreed loosely that in real world delivery resolution is still HD, (in some perfect situation, BTW last week I sent dv pal interlaced file for TV broadcast of an ad that I shot on GH4 4K anamorphic). I don't know. Gh4 borrowed from a friend, to be clear, just for that 4:3 mode.

  • @inqb8tr I have had the same feeling about all this. GH3 was exciting as ergonomics upgrade - never though it can compete with the GH2 in terms of IQ and character. GH4 was groundbreaking but only in terms of resolution, and at a time when said resolution wasn't widely accepted yet. Now, the GH5 really feels like the proper upgrade from GH2, it is such a complete tool! I still love and use my GH2, but times change and now the GH5 will be my A cam. Of course, Blackmagic has always been extremely tempting, but the ergonomics is terrible. If only there was an Ursa Mini inside a GH5 body and at its price...

  • @IronFilm That is the main question. I guess that the closest thing from @apefos list would be number 2, but not so much about aliasing as a disturbance, more about sharpness and amount of fine detail when downsampling.

    And then the color depth with 10bit 4:2:2, everything that allows you to push it in post, and of course the damn slomo. I'd like to get few new possibilities to push the quality a bit up. People generally get used to certain visual quality, and slowly your tool becomes more and more ordinary. When it was competing mainly with mushy Canons, GH2 really shined, but now it is different ballgame.

    GH4 did not provide enough to flip the scale, but GH5 does.

    Though I'd always get the BM Pocket over it anytime, if it only was barely usable, you know what I mean, and Ursa mini Pro is too expensive.

  • The GH2 is a very capable camera, even in 2017, even in the near future.

    While TV broadcast stay in the Full HD 1080p as a standard for television, all the 1080p cameras will remain usable. Sony NEX, Canon EOS, Nikon, Lumix, etc... Any 1080p camera will be good enough.

    Most of cinema screens are 2k, and 4k cinemas are considered special theaters with higher ticket prices.

    When the television broadcast make the turn to 4k as a standard, then the 1080p cameras will start to be obsolet. But not obsolet from day to night, not so fast, it will be a transition with both 4k and FullHD living together for some time, maybe some years.

    Also there is an important thing to consider when we think 4k versus FullHD: which screen will be used by the audience to see the content? Smartphones? Tablets or Notebooks? Desktop computers? TV sets? Home theather projectors? Cinema Theaters? This is very important to consider.

    There are researches in the internet showing the average percentage of screens used to watch online videos (youtube, vimeo and others). These researches shows 4k smart tvs as only 2% to 5% of the total screens used to see the online videos. Also these researches shows desktop computers decreasing and smartphones and tablets increasing. So a FullHD camera will remain very capable, even after tv broadcast turn to 4k standard because most of people will be using small screens, and 4k for small screens is just overkill.

    Home theater and corporate projectors are 1080p as a maximum resolution, 4k projectors are just impossible expensive.

    I think there are some important reasons for 4k:

    1 - your own pleasure: if you have a 4k tv set you will want to delight yourself and your family and your friends with a 4k wonderful image.

    2 - your eyes got trained and now you have already perceived that the 1080p cameras, all of them have some amount of aliasing, even the GH2, and you want to shot 4k and downsize to 1080p to get the best possible 1080p.

    3 - your audience have 4k screens, for example a wedding video for a new couple who have a 4k tv set.

    4 - you have sponsors for a project, and sponsors are rich people who owns 4k tv sets, and you wan to delight your sponsors with the best image.

    5 - you are not so good cinematographer and you need reframing and stabilizing in post production.

    6 - you are selling video on demand content and there are some amount of people hungry for 4k content (don't forget: script and direction are more important than resolution)

    Maybe there are more reasons for 4k, if you know them, please share...

    Think like this: today 4k is the IMAX film and Full HD is the 35mm film, today 4k is a plus. But when 4k becomes a standard for tv and cinema, it will be the 35mm film and the Full HD will be the 16mm film. Remember that there will always be audience for a good 16mm film.

  • What made the GH5 finally be the camera to make you decide to upgrade your GH2? And not say when the GH4 came out? Or wait for the GH6....

  • As some of you know, I hate buying new cameras. Today I very much enjoy explaining that I work with 200$ little hacked camera. This year I'll probably get new camera, GH5, or something from BMD if they announce something crazy at NAB.

    To raise awareness (lol) here I'm sharing few more stuff I did with GH2 in 2016:

    One little sailing regatta promo video:

    A documentary about historical and geographical features of the place I live at (there is also some Canon 1Dc footage here, the mushy shots :)).

    Stay tuned for some 2017 GH2 productions :)

  • Yeah, blows arri and red out of the water :))

  • Looks great

  • New promotional ad, shot only with GH2! This time I had a chance to shoot with at least 5 newer cameras, but to prove the point :)

  • Thanks @MendalFly I used Nikkor 24mm2.8 Ais and 50mm 1.4 Ais, also Sankor 16 anamorphot for the last shot.

  • This footage is incredible, both technically and conceptually. I have owned my GH2 for a few years now and have never come up with anything close to this good what type of glass did you use?

  • Since I about 3 years work with 23.976p framerate, I don't mean sell 3 bodies of GH2, and I love my new GH4 too.

  • I sold my last one

  • @marciocons

    I like the grain and sharper matrix of older intra settings..

  • @inqb8tr , great video, brother! Since I am still new to the GH2, I would like to know why you are still using Canis Majoris instead of Moon T7 settings. Is it better in low light than Moon?