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GH2 Flow Motion v2 - 100Mbps Fast Action Performance & Reliability for Class 10 SD cards
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  • briangeorgebriangeorge

    @LPowell thanks for your answer. Time to take your setting into the field!

  • LPowellLPowell

    @briangeorge 60Mbps is the peak bitrate of 24L mode. Tools like MediaInfo report the average bitrate, which is always lower than the peak bitrate. The "24L Video Bitrate" setting in PTool is set correctly, along with all the other settings in Flow Motion v2. In practice, the actual peak bitrate is determined by a combination of several settings used in FM2.

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    @Mirrorkisser Already tested one of the Valkyrie settings. 23 or 24 settings were tested. EOSHD Unified 88 failed the test 6 times on two middle-of-the-road cards so completely that no files were saved and the camera locked up completely - as in I tried pushing various buttons, left it alone for over 100 seconds afterwards, tried pushing buttons again and then had to empty the battery compartment to get it to turn off. All the 20 plus other settings were able to record at least a few seconds on a Transcend Class 6 card.

    Both LPowell and bkmwcd have been given links to them. I may hold off on posting the larger set publicly until I can do a better test but you can PM me if you want an FTP link to the current MTS files and StreamParser info. (excluding private betas).

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    @thepalalias: cheers for your test. Would it be possible to get the Valkyrie settings into the setup? Many people use it right now. Really looking forward to more testing!

  • briangeorgebriangeorge

    @LPowell At the beginning of the thread you mention that Flow Motion 2.02 has 60mbps-24L spanning. But when I load the 2.02 patch file you have supplied into Ptools 3.66 it shows the bitrate as 32mbps for 24L setting. Same when I load it into Ptools 3.64. Applied this patch to the camera and did a test to check the 24L bitrate (10,000 iso, 1/4000s shutter speed recording a TV screen and erratically moving the camera) and the bitrate doesn't go higher than 32mbps. Do I have to manually set the bitrate for 24L to 60mbps in Ptools in order to get the 60mbps-24L spanning?

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    @LPowell Yes, that is accurate. Although this time not as dark as the last time I tested such things.

  • LPowellLPowell

    @thepalalias I typically use test subjects chosen intentionally to reveal particular aspects of motion picture quality. What were you hoping to see in this example? The right side of the frame is an underexposed and out-of-focus object with few distinct edges, shot at ISO 12800. This produces very high noise levels which obscure the soft details of the image. A test of the GH2's worst-case image quality?

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    @LPowelll I am taking your advice and trying to do some comparisons that are not just I-frame specific. My in-motion ones so far have been very poor, so here is a (relatively) static one.

    Here is a comparison of 1:1 from an unprocessed I-frame of a static shot at ISO 12,800 with Sanity 5, Factory 1.1 (unlocked ISO), Flowmotion 2.02 and Cluster 7AN Nebular 6 GOP Sharp 2.

    The scene is NOT very demanding other than the high ISO. There is also not a lot of motion - it is meant to be essentially static.

    Here are the avg. I-frame sizes in that clip for each setting.

    • Sanity 5: 288, 583
    • Cluster 7 AN Nebular Sharp 2: 206,449
    • Flowmotion 2.02: 192,542
    • Factory 1.1 (ISO unlocked): 108, 324

    Avg P-Frame Size:

    • Sanity 5: 90,229
    • Factory 1.1 (ISO unlocked): 31,771
    • Flowmotion 2.02: Does not use P-frames
    • Cluster 7 AN Nebular Sharp 2: Does not use P-frames

    Avg B-Frame Size:

    • Flowmotion 2.02: 97, 947
    • Sanity 5: 64, 795
    • Cluster 7 AN Nebular Sharp 2: 57,411
    • Factory 1.1 (ISO unlocked): Does not use B-frames

    The crops are from the I-frames because it was the only frame type used by all 4 settings.

    Suggestions regarding further testing are always welcomed.

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    1440 x 900 - 2M
  • paulo_teixeirapaulo_teixeira

    Just a bunch of clips that I shot in Sao Miguel, Azores from the end of August to beginning of September. I was only their for 2 weeks. For a lot of the beginning clips, the weather wasn't that great and the camera was set in a way to sort of look like film. That was unintentional. A lot of the second half clips, I used a standard setting. No color correcting what so ever for this entire piece.

    Hacked GH2. FlowMotion 2.0 patch. Panasonic 20mm lens for everything. ProMaster variable ND filter for bright days.

    Theirs more info on the description area of YouTube.

    Choose 1080p if your bandwidth is good enough.

    I'm going to also post this on Vimeo at a later date so that people can download it and really see the quality. That might be 4 gigs to allow people to play in on their PS3's for example but on the other hand, I can get more quality out of 5 gigs. I'll just be less compatible with some things. I'll think about it and no, I don't really want to divide it up into 2 parts even though it's extremely long. I'm not sure if I'll want to color correct the Vimeo version either. As I said, I did no grading at all for this YouTube version.

  • ImaginateImaginate

    This is some test footage shot with flowmotion from a family adventure film I've been developing. Shooting outside in bright sunlight and deep shadows we are looking for a codec that can allow us to pull more detail out of those shadows. Maybe flow motion is a good patch for that.

    http://player.vimeo.com/video/50159145

    password: wilderness

  • david_ddavid_d

    Oh, yes. Thank you!

  • LPowellLPowell

    @david_d The download link is in the first post in this thread. Be sure to register and login to the site first:

    http://www.personal-view.com./talks/discussion/3337/gh2-flow-motion-v2-100mbps-fast-action-performance-reliability-for-class-10-sd-cards/p1

  • david_ddavid_d

    Hello all,

    Sorry for this... but where is the download link for FM ? I'm lost.

    Best regards.

  • MorphoVMorphoV

    Recording session shot with an old version of FM. Thank you LPowell.

  • valpopandovalpopando

    @Rambo very nice footage , WOW at the sea Waves !!guess next times you have to get weather sealing GH3 LOL

  • karlkarl

    I recently used FlowMotion 2.02 to shoot underwater footage at Curacao, I opened a separate topic on this in case somebody would like to discuss the particularities of GH2 underwater videographing in general.

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  • mozesmozes

    Wooww real nice video @Swiss_Boy. i like the grading and the fine details from FM setting..

  • Swiss_BoySwiss_Boy

    Flow Motion is my new favorite patch i just wish 720/50p would never crash but it is crashing from time to time and i gotta remove the batterie but that's not a big problem. These 2 videos were shot in HBR/25p and 720/50p for slow motion. Oh yeah and thanks to @L1N3ARX cause he inspired me a lot for some of my grading process.

  • exilenorthexilenorth

    @Rambo so when were you working on your focus? 2 or 3 feet off the deck.. great job. Gh2 Gh1, yes . the mighty mites.

  • RamboRambo

    Yep, manually, but some of the clips are smoothed in post. There are some technical errors and a few shots where i didn't nail focus, but hard to get right on a one take one off event like this.

  • LongJohnSilverLongJohnSilver

    Wow I liked!

    I've seen a couple of zoom shots from the elicopter (I believe). Did you zoom manually with the 14-140?

    Nice indeed

  • RamboRambo

    My latest from Tahiti. GH1 and GH2, Flowmotion/LPowell settings, 720p all clips, including the chopper footage. Lens, 14-140 kit, 20mm pancake and Canon FD 50 f1.4 for all the night shots.

  • murph100murph100

    Thanks

  • SageSage

    Yes

  • murph100murph100

    @LPowell, sorry for the dumb question, but assuming I dont need audio, am I better off using 80% VMM instead of 30pHBR ?

    BTW a HUGE thanks for bringing out ONE patch that does it all excellently ! ; )

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