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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • kurthkurth

    and why the US govt is keeping their mouths shut.... https://www.zerohedge.com/health/explosive-report-wuhan-biolab-captured-bats-caves-traced-covid-19-outbreak-had-us-funding ..... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html . Truth is none of the scientist working in this field is innocent and can be believed. They are covering up, not only the true source of the virus, but the criminal field of research activity that has created the coronavirus pandemic. Criminal indictments must be made against not only the Chinese but the Americans as well, who were guilty of funding Wuhan, and guilty of similar research in places like Fort Detrick. That's if humanity doesn't want this to be repeated.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...but your summer argument makes perfect sense for outside free moving viruses in droplets. The question is how many contagions happen outside in open air? Inside , esp in north america, people move to airconditioned environments quickly, and that would mean ...? Air conditioned environments do have less humidity. It'll be a question answered in short time.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...we'll agree to disagree. Two or three months is not old recycled information. The doc adds new information and reframes it into a cohesive theory for mass consumption. You can't say this follows any previous historical pattern. Blame will be proven, whether it's the anti-chinese version or their anti-american theory. And the idea that if not this then that, is not even an argument. Elites are dying , regardless they have the best chances. It's chaos, not controlled chaos, and chaos is never a plan, as for example , contrary to 911 which was quickly theorized and later proven to be controlled chaos. And few elites perished on 911 as well. Coincidentally they all called in sick !

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    Doc does not show any China guilt. As all arguments are already pretty old and recycled.

    Approach you try to promote (looking for someone to blame) had been also very widespread during early WWI (how nice it could have been if not stupid Gavrilo Princip or stupid Serbians).

    Here it is the same, If not China and if not in Wuhan we would have something similar anyway. As US and China economics states demanded such. Elite needed something to blame for issues. They tried trade war first, but it did not work properly and caused more damage than solved problems.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    On summer and coronavirus

    Present coronavirus while being in the open air is NOT different to any virus of its's size, as it is passive round like particle attached to droplet.

    Hence virus survival is dependent from mostly one thing - how droplet behaves. And it behaves same with any other virus simiar in size. This means that spreading is much much lower and situation will be much better.

    Secondary thing is the stronger UV component during hot summer, but it does not work inside. It is not so important and it is almost almost do not depend on specifics of virus outer shell.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...undoubtedly western world criminally mishandled the response, and continue doing so. The american press is justifiably crucifying trump. The totalitarian statist will take all the advantage they can. That doesn't negate the criminality of the viruses origin. The doc, I knew would rile some heads, esp the last part. But it shows china's guilt. Not unequivocally, but it's getting close. The old world order is dead. There will be no trade agreements with china. In fact , there will be even more multi trillion dollar lawsuits that I predict eventually will even take private chinese citizens USa and UK properties as collateral. All supply chains will collapse. Alibaba is dead, along with Apple. No one is buying. But what happens in the long run ? It's anybodies guess. I'll wait and watch. But what your suggesting won't happen in the USa unless it declares total martial law, and then it'll collapse into civil war first...but maybe in Russia.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    Rumors are that new Apple and Google libraries and apps will become mandatory. And parts of them will be part of all pass or QR codes apps that goverments will release.

    People who will refuse to have total tracking of their contacts and position will be declared as outlaws and will be prohibited to have any work or enter any shops or goverment places.

    As I undersatand it is first small part of grand plan.

    Second rumors are that schools and universtities will never became the same. Visits will be allowed only for people who either passed antibidoes test or who have certified mask on them and proper smartphone with tracking app. We can also have official visit cost, it iwll be based on statement that it is due to expenses on viris fighting and keeping all anitvirus measures in place. All mass media will promote only online education for poor, will ask them not to visit schools.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    I am not biggest China fan, but right now all this China related things looks like bad attempt to hide major capitalist countries fuckup.

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  • kurthkurth

    the coverup .... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/11/china-clamping-down-on-coronavirus-research-deleted-pages-suggest?CMP=share_btn_tw

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    German research

    Preliminary result: An existing immunity of approx. 14% (antiSARS-CoV2 IgG positive, specificity of the method>, 99%) was determined. About 2% of the Individuals had a current SARS-CoV-2 determined using the PCR method Infection on. The infection rate (current infection or already gone through) was a total of approx. 15%. The lethality (case fatality rate) based on the total number of Infected in the community of Gangelt is based on the preliminary data from this Study about 0.37%. Currently in Germany from Johns-Hopkins University calculated lethality is 1.98% and is 5 times higher. The Mortality based on the total population in Gangelt is currently 0.06%

    https://www.land.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/zwischenergebnis_covid19_case_study_gangelt_0.pdf

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

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  • kurthkurth

    ""Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus""....

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    On lockdowns

    It seems like the approach mostly failed.

    As it is impossible to control population for such prolonged amount of time, especially if lot of them now have no money to buy food.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Canada

    Employment fell by more than one million in March (-1,011,000 or -5.3%). The employment rate—or the proportion of people aged 15 and older who were employed—fell 3.3 percentage points to 58.5%, the lowest rate since April 1997.

    Of those who were employed in March, the number who did not work any hours during the reference week (March 15 to 21) increased by 1.3 million, while the number who worked less than half of their usual hours increased by 800,000. These increases in absences from work can be attributed to COVID-19 and bring the total number of Canadians who were affected by either job loss or reduced hours to 3.1 million.

    The unemployment rate increased by 2.2 percentage points to 7.8%, the largest one-month increase since comparable data became available in 1976. Unemployment increased by 413,000 (+36.4%), largely due to temporary layoffs. In addition, the number of Canadians who had worked recently and wanted to work, but did not meet the official definition of unemployed, increased by 193,000.

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/200409/dq200409a-eng.htm?HPA=1

  • kurthkurth

    "there was evidence that the Wuhan lab was operating at biosafety level 2 security, as opposed to the recommended biosafety level 4, and that the accidental infection of a laboratory worker could not be ruled out" ...and “Virologists—especially virologists who perform gain-of-function or global-virome research, whose research likely would be restricted or terminated if the possibility were confirmed—tend to disagree.” ...and interestingly, the two doubters quoted fit into that category above.... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/inside-the-the-viral-spread-of-a-coronavirus-origin-theory

  • kurthkurth

    corona fuxs with your brain.... https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/2764549?guestAccessKey=4acaca6e-7090-4008-acf2-54ded1321cfe&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=041020

  • kurthkurth

    video from Ecuador in english ( US msm already claiming fake news )... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=116&v=XHsfjnRB-uA&feature=emb_logo

  • kurthkurth

    so fux the capitalist maquiladores.... https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mexico-closes-u-s-owned-plant-for-allegedly-refusing-to-sell-ventilators-to-mexican-hospitals-1.4891971

  • kurthkurth

    elites prepare their minds for post coronavirus world.... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pandemic-lead-social-revolutions-050011245.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Minimum costs to manufacture new treatments for COVID-19

    Dangerous research for capitalism.

    Results: Minimum estimated costs of production were US $0.93/day for remdesivir, $1.45/day for favipiravir, $0.08/day for hydroxychloroquine, $0.02/day for chloroquine, $0.10/day for azithromycin, $0.28/day for lopinavir/ritonavir, $0.39/day for sofosbuvir/daclatasvir and $1.09/day for pirfenidone. Costs of production ranged between $0.30 and $31 per treatment course (10–28 days). Current prices of these drugs were far higher than the costs of production, particularly in the US.

    Conclusions: Should repurposed drugs demonstrate efficacy against COVID-19, they could be manufactured profitably at very low costs, for much less than current list prices.

    Cost is in average around 100 times less compared to drug store prices.

    Capitalism kills.

    http://viruseradication.com/journal-details/Minimum_costs_to_manufacture_new_treatments_for_COVID-19/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

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    Q4 2019 suicides in UK had been already high. April ones will more than double.

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  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...this is somewhat illogical. Because if a patient gets admitted with corona like symptoms but has other chronic conditions like heart disease or diabetes, most of these chronic conditions don't cause the same symptoms as coronavirus, for example fever or cough or pneumonia. Maybe the chronic illnesses contribute to the patients decline, but their death should be attributed to the disease that's causing the acute symptoms that caused their illness. Heart disease doesn't cause a fever. And I would think that in europe and the usa , post mortem corona tests are being administered. So while the number of overall cases is in great dispute, the number of deaths should be absolute.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    More often than we want to admit, we don’t know with certainty the cause of death when we fill out death certificates. That is just life. We are doctors, not God. Autopsies are rarely performed and even when an autopsy is done the actual cause of death is not always clear. Physicians make their best guesstimate and fill out the form. Then that listed cause of death… is entered into a vital records data bank to use for statistical analysis, which then gives out inaccurate numbers, as you can imagine. Those inaccurate numbers then become accepted as factual information even though much of it is false.

    So even before we heard of COVID-19, death certificates were based on assumptions and educated guesses that go unquestioned. When it comes to COVID-19 there is the additional data skewer, that is –get this— there is no universal definition of COVID-19 death. The Centers for Disease Control, updated from yesterday, April 4th, still states that mortality, quote unquote, data includes both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19. That’s from their website.

    Translation? The CDC counts both true COVID-19 cases and speculative guesses of COVID-19 the same. They call it death by COVID-19. They automatically overestimate the real death numbers, by their own admission. Prior to COVID-19, people were more likely to get an accurate cause of death written on their death certificate if they died in the hospital. Why more accurate when a patient dies in the hospital? Because hospital staff has physical examination findings labs, radiologic studies, et cetera, to make a good educated guess. It is estimated that 60 percent of people die in the hospital. But even [with] those in-hospital deaths, the cause of death is not always clear, especially in someone with multiple health conditions, each of which could cause the death.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    "A shortage of condoms and other contraceptives could lead to an increase in unwanted pregnancies, with disastrous consequences for the health and well-being of adolescents, women and their partners and families," the spokesperson continued.

    Real tragedy comes :-)

    We already have all major media telling you how to reuse one time mask. Expect them to give you tips on how to wash and reuse condoms.

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