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Panasonic GH6, final m43 camera, again with bad AF
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  • endotoxicendotoxic

    Makes sense.

    No wishes here people. Just suck the lemon candy as it is.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    MFT will focus on the V-Logging segment. They don’t see a huge market for a GH6 anymore as most people are moving to Full Frame. So the upcoming GH6 may be more a “Pro Grade” G100. It’s more of an upgraded GH5 in a new body with enhanced mobile integration. Or to make it short – a GH6 may not come with the desired specs and the story of the Pro Video MFT will end with the GH5.

    43rumors

  • apefosapefos

    GH6 will be a mix of GH5+GH5S, dual iso with ibis and multiaspect sensor with 44 megapixels for DCI 8K 422 10bit video with vlog. 8K with dual iso can be ok in M43 up to iso 3200.

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    So papá sonic what’s to transform the company’s way of communicating with customers by changing themself to a more open strategy.

    If true true, and use proper communication they will fail. Such old structured company’s won’t change that fast.

    All to make more green papers as in the past.

    Panafriend make shure to define well who will be your future partners in USA or china.

    I know you hate china but it’s closer to your country and well you get things faster, but blocking it and playing gringos game right now it’s not being smart boy.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Seems like GH6 can be last camera in m43 lineup.

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • meemee

    Whispers in the dark..

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    GH6 situation is still strange

    My source in Panasonic told that it had been mentioned only once on meetings. Possible first marketing announcement can be very soon, before or during IBC. Most probably before, as they want to use carefully selected bloggers who will do only requested things. Even want to write some preview guide like AMD is writing.

    Yet things can repeat or even outpace the FF cameras approach, with announcement being up to 8 months ahead of any real availability. Idea is to make it closer to multi step EVA1 approach. And similar things with firmware.

  • EspenBEspenB

    43 rumours:

    • There seem to be discussion that next GH will have a Super 35 sensor (full size to be enabled by key)
    • higher resolution
    • special pixel binning algorithm for low light applications
    • Dual ISO
  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

    LOL

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @IronFilm

    Need to read thing more carefully. This is only about FF related plans.

    If trade war will proceed and camera market will go to hell and it goes now we can see big surprises, including even prematurely end of life for Panasonic L mount.

  • IronFilmIronFilm

    If situation will become even more bleak during summer, starting September we can see as much as 50% price cuts among both bodies and 30% for some of lenses.

    GH5 is selling for around $1.5K currently, I'd happily forget about buying a G85 this year and buy a GH5 instead for $750!

  • meemee

    It's sad about the S line. I want to like those camera's but the weight alone is counter intuitive of where I want to be, and I think most of the market for that matter, even at half price. Maybe if they unlock 6K video at 60p, and sell the body for under 1k they can pull that line out of the dive it's in. You may say that I'm a dreamer.....

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Small updates right before NAB.

    Situation inside Panasonic in Japan is bizzare. Management do not know fully that to do as FF lineup presently requires external financing and it is projected that it will bring only losses during 2019. m43 sales also not so good.

    GH6 development is going on, but it was not mentioned on meeting for quite a time. They are all focused on solution of their FF lineup issues. If situation will become even more bleak during summer, starting September we can see as much as 50% price cuts among both bodies and 30% for some of lenses.

    So, can say thanks for FF cameras as they affected plans towards GH6 a lot.

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    Without making the GH6 a lot bigger (and probably more expensive), I couldn't even imagine how they would do 8k at any higher frame rates. That's a lot of IO/processing power. Instead of lamenting that, maybe celebrate that there's a good chance that 4kp120 (or higher?) should be available/possible and is still more resolution than you're likely to need any time in the near future.

  • mikeyeung5mikeyeung5

    GH6 seems an incomplete 8K camera, if only shoot 24/ 25 / 30. And SD card with UHS-ll is still very expensive, if they can record into SSD from Type-C like backmagic will be wonderful.

    Since GH line has advantage on video recording, I think Panasonic needs to develop new high standard lens for video. I am not sure how many parfocal lens existing in M43 system. But just like Fujinoon MK Zoom lens or broadcasting lens with auto focus will gives M43 a big support.

  • meemee

    8k will be here long before 2020 games, this is just a given. It may come on a G before a GH model, but that's just a guess. The global shutter organic sensor will be here in time for the games, maybe much earlier. 8k must be released soon to stay competitive since sony and canon will be doing the same. 8K for the olympics was announced very early, if memory serves me before the gh4 came out, it was half marketing since this was the time Tokyo got the Olympic bid and half a conservative prediction about when 8k would become the new pro-sumer standard. In simple terms, Panasonic is not going to wait till the 2020 olympics, while others release 8k in 2018.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @MarcioK

    Looks like no PDAF again.

    As far as I heard - yes, no PDAF.

  • eatstoomuchjameatstoomuchjam

    So that also means we could be seeing a huge jump in m43 resolution - it seems like the highest are still 20-24 megapixels for stills. Supporting 8k would mean supporting at least 32 megapixel stills (a bit less if the 8k is interpolated).

  • MarcioKMarcioK

    Looks like no PDAF again.

  • EnoEno

    I personally think the GH6 will be announced in the beginning of 2020 (not sooner) and it will feature the organic sensor Panasonic is working on for some time now. :)

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Basically, a Red Dragon in my hand.

    Part of RD dynamic range is pixel size (here pixel size will be smaller compared to GH5), another part is cooling.

    As they want to keep sensor based stabilization we will see DR decrease, not increase.

    To keep with it temporal noise reduction will be improved.

  • Brian_SianoBrian_Siano

    All I want is great image quality-- less noise, better low-light, wider dynamic range, higher resolutions. Basically, a Red Dragon in my hand.

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