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GH5 Panasonic camera, from anticipation to love or hate
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  • EnoEno

    I wish Panasonic wold make a 16/9 5K video format in the GH5 with uncompressed 48 Khz sound besides the 6K photo mode which is ok'ish except the 125 kb/sec audio quality (which is quite bad). :(

  • EspenBEspenB

    Is there allready a GH5 price drop in the european market?

    "The body is sold alone more or less 1 600 € in Maine-et-Loire and Paris."

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • VeskuVesku

    One of my long time wishes have been a FN-option for playback button. Now GH5 has it and I can program play button to right side of the camera. Then I dont need to take my left hand of the lens when quickly reviewing photos or videos. This is great. Is there somewhere a list of programmable FN items. Seems that there are at least 16 pages of items for FN in this image.

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  • Manu4VendettaManu4Vendetta

    More cinematic camera Lumix ever?

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  • VeskuVesku

    I wonder how GH5 can read sensor in 10bit 6k photo 3 times faster than 12bit photo e-shutter. Is the 6k photo really true 10bit or is it only 8bit video in 10bit container?

  • alcomposeralcomposer

    @fahenheit I believe that 6k photo mode currently is the teaser into what Panasonic want to do with 6k recording. Ironically you can also view footage shot in 6k mode in the ways: sequential frame-by-frame and normal video playback. Possibly there is also the possibility that h265 will become the "raw" of the future. I have had success extracting 6k h265 footage from the GH5, very promissing. Only strange thing is that the bit rate was quite high: 190kb/s... At least that is what ffmpeg reported.

    Considering that "press to start" mode is basically "click to record" I think we may see more video centric 6k in future… especially as we all know 8k is future for the big 3 camera makers.

  • AKEDAKED

    I can suppot the slower sensor readout with pictures now. We were driving 120 kilometers, about 70 miles an hour and I took pictures with I think a 1/1300 of a second. First is the electronic shutter, then the mechanical.
    I only changed to mechanical shutter:

    Amazing. NO rolling shutter with the mechanical shutter.

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  • AKEDAKED

    Of course sensor readout is not the same as shutter speed. Thats why I ask how that corrresponds. I was taking pictures of birds in flight. There sometimes one needs faster shutter. But 10.000 should be enough. And only mechanical shutter. Thanks for the info.

  • fahrenheitfahrenheit

    Not sure if it's common knowledge but apparently you get audio in 6K photo mode if you use the normal "press to start, press to stop" recording, but not for pre-burst or the press-and-hold options.

    @Vesku "Normal shutter cant work over 1/8000s. When using shorter shutter we almost certainly want to shoot fast moving subjects."

    1/1000 is usually enough to freeze most sport. Very difficult to get enough light for 1/16000 with anything other than exotic optics.

  • alcomposeralcomposer

    Anyone have any ideas of how to get OSMO style remote follow focus using Panasonic Lenses?

    Focus Transition seems like a really great feature but the WIFI app doesn't support it at all.

    (I don't want to get an OSMO-currently, and I would like to keep my Gimbal lite, so no follow focus motors.)

  • VeskuVesku

    Normal shutter cant work over 1/8000s. When using shorter shutter we almost certainly want to shoot fast moving subjects. Slow sensor reading e-shutter is not good for that. It makes bended lines and distortions.

    Shutter speed is not the same thing as the sensor speed. With e-shutter the sensor exposes every sensor row at current shutter speed separately from up to down. The whole sensor readout time is the time sensor gets all the horizontal rows exposed. Sensor reading time is always the same with all the shutter speeds.

  • AKEDAKED

    Interesting info about the electronic shutter. If the GH5 is in Auto shutter, it is usually in mechanical shuttler but if you go faster than the 1/10,000 or 1/12,000 of a second, it will automatically change to electronic shutter, because mechanical shutter can not go faster than that.

    How does that fit into the picture of a slower readout?

  • AKEDAKED

    As far as I understand, 24 ms are faster than 40ms

  • VeskuVesku

    Does someone understand what this Panasonic statement means (yellow)? In photo mode GH5 reads sensor actually slower than GH4. In 6k photo mode GH5 sensor reading is faster than this info.

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  • VeskuVesku

    GH5 e-shutter seems to be as slow in JPG and RAW photos. Here is a comparison using banding from lights. The more bands the slower sensor reading. E-M1 mk2 is almost 3 times faster! GH5 e-shutter is not good for moving subjects.

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  • EnoEno

    @Vesku My thoughts exactly, + from what I've seen the GH5's rolling shutter in 4K is much lower (which has a full sensor readout) compared to the cropped GH4.

  • VeskuVesku

    I want confirmation for this e-shutter issue because Panasonic says GH5 sensor is much faster than GH4.

  • EnoEno

    @Vesku But the good news are:

    "What we see here is that the Lumix GH5 has the same image quality using both the mechanical and electronic shutters. The other cameras, on the other hand, lose some details in the shadows in electronic shutter mode, indicating a lower bit depth."

  • VeskuVesku

    Seems that GH5 has slower e-shutter in photos than GH4. Odd and bad news. Dont shoot moving objects with e-shutter.

    http://m43photo.blogspot.fi/2017/04/gh5-e-shutter-is-slower.html

    GH5 needs 10bit RAW e-shutter option. The readout speed would be 1/60s.

    I wonder if the GH5 JPGs are good enough. With GH4 the JPGs from 10bit RAW are much better than plain JPGs, like from different camera.

  • MckiniseMckinise

    @Brian_Siano I have one. It works well. No issues. If you want a GH5 then buy one. The only opinion that truly matters is your own.

  • Brian_SianoBrian_Siano

    Getting ready to pull the trigger on a GH5. But, one keeps seeing notes and posts and blog entries about this problem or that-- the auto-focus, noise, glitches, bricking, alla that stuff. I know, most of the time GH5's work just fine. I'm not that worried.

    Is there some place or list that sets down the verified shortcomings or glitches of the GH5? And describes them in an accurate manner?

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

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