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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • JuMoJuMo

    @DanHarris So far I like the stronger Tiffens on BM sensors, but there are definitely higher end (and pricier) options out there. I found this video to be very helpful in comparing a few different manufacturers filters on a few different cameras. 2:40 ish for BMCC and Tiffen (IR ND 2.1)

  • DanHarrisDanHarris

    @jumo what IR cut filter you using with your Vari ND? I have a 77mm Singh Ray and in need of a decently priced IR. $50-100? Almost all synthetic black fabrics are deep reddish brown with my Nikkors + Vari ND Anyone use this Tiffen IR on a BMPCC or any of the Tiffen combo neutral ND IR's 1.8, 2.1, 1.2 ? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/658765-REG/Tiffen_W77IR_T1_Infrared_Filter_77mm.html

  • JuMoJuMo

    Hey guys, I'm not able to share any of my current project work shot with the RAW update just yet, but I am really loving this update. It's like a whole new camera! I think ProRes still has it's place, but RAW is clearly the way this camera is meant to be used.

    I went for a short walk with my wife and little boy this afternoon and brought my BMPCC and just one lens along: a Canon FD 28mm f2 with the Metabones SpeedBooster and Vari-ND (left my IR cut filter behind). Please forgive the hand-held shooting.

    I wanted to play with magic hour footage and experiment with a couple of very quick and dirty LUT based grades (maybe spent 20-25 minutes in total to get the edit and both grades). I focussed on a Kodak LUT and Hook's LUT. The sunset light wasn't all that great, fairly heavy cloud cover blocked most of the good light, but I thought I'd share my experiment anyways.

    Hook LUT:

    Warmer, saturated and dreamy

    Kodak LUT:

    Contrasty, moody and organic

    The RAW workflow with Resolve is honestly not putting me off at all. It's super streamlined. I edited and graded the footage in about twice the time it took the transfer the files and had them exported and uploading shortly after that. It seems that when to use RAW is really just a matter of how much space you are ready to use.

  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @vicharris Desert shots look quite nice. Especially since quickly done with quick grade. This and other videos are starting to show the ability of pocket to do nice establishing shots. Reminded me of some film I've seen - maybe it was Hitcher. Thanks for posting.

  • majoraxismajoraxis

    I second that on the quality of shots. I was almost expecting opening credits to starting rolling in...

  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @Tron A lot of nice shot here.

  • _gl_gl

    Nice shots @Tron.

  • dbpdbp

    Just browsing random tests on vimeo, there's a night and day difference in the RAW vs Pro Res stuff. The colors look much nicer. The RAW stuff is really starting to consistently make the Pocket shine I find.

  • apefosapefos

    @ala_img this is interesting news for me. in GH2 the iDynamic just works with native lenses with electronic contacts. With native lenses iDynamic gets enabled everytime there is contrast in the image. With legacy lenses iDynamic just gets enabled in GH2 when the image is overexposed which does not help anyway.

    If in GH3 iDynamic works in the same way for native/non native lenses, this is great news!

  • theconformisttheconformist

    @tron What is the file size of the exported DNxHD files versus the original raw file? Is it preferable to export to DNxHD over proRes 422?

  • lmackreathlmackreath

    When you export where do you then do your final clip editing?.. My other workflow is grading the dngs in lightroom , exporting out as tiffs.. Compiling the tiffs into prores hq in compressor and then importing these prores files into fcp x for the final cut. I wanted to know with the resolve method above am I gaining any quality over just shooting In prores in the first place?

  • TronTron

    @lmackreath The real benefit to shooting in raw is being able to nail that exposure you deem best for the scene while also having the power of 12 bit color correction prior to exporting. I have been color correcting the dngs in AE and ACR and exporting in DNxHD 10bit 4:2:2. The quality of the files are superior to the 4:2:2 ProRes I get straight out of the camera and I get to try any exposure I want to without experiencing any noticeable degradation of image. I am really blown away at how clean the final output is (minus the occasional false color debayering artifacts), the grain is so fine it is practically invisible! I was really amazed at how much control I had over the sky when grading the few clips I was able to shoot yesterday -

  • lmackreathlmackreath

    Quick question.. If I use resolve to ingest my bmpcc raw dngs.. Convert the files to bmd film and then export out as prores to then edit in fcp x... Am I gaining any quality advantage doing this or woukd this be basically the same as shooting in prores in the first place?

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @Stylz Sorry man, I'm exhausted and a bit chippy I guess :)

  • ala_imgala_img

    @apefos Why with a native lens? IDynamic works with any lenses on GH3.

  • kingmixerkingmixer

    +1 for enjoying the simple Effects-less camera

  • StylzStylz

    Just ribbing ya buddy.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @DocoDocoMan Thanks and sure man, give me a timecode and an email via PM and I'll email you a full scale still if you want.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @Stylz, yes you did and like i said, I just grabbed some footage to throw up but thanks for pointing all that out. Great eye there mate. Now once again, when I'm done traveling, I'll throw together a PROPER EDIT and post then.

  • DocoDocoManDocoDocoMan

    @apefos: on a tangent, the fact the BMPCC doesn't have a Smooth, iDynamic, Nature, Party, CutePetCat or Underwater Sunset mode is what makes it so special in this day and age.

    It's the Pentax Spotmatic of modern movie making. You set your ASA/ISO, the aperture, your shutter speed (angle), frame up, focus and shoot, there is no need to guess what the manufacture means by an icon with a flower or a sun partially obscured by an umbrella.

    The most annoying thing about digital photo/cinematography to date is all the crap that gets in the way of the basics.

    Thank you BMD for keeping it simple xx

  • DocoDocoManDocoDocoMan

    Oh and @VicHarris, nice images mate!! Would you mind if a steal a frame for my desktop background?

    ... @apefos .... it would still be nice to see the results of the testing.

  • StylzStylz

    I saw some jiggle and some jaggle and some bumps and some rolling shutter.

  • apefosapefos

    I would like to see a comparison between GH2 or GH3 with a native lens in Smooth or Nature and iDynamic enabled in the highest setting against BMPCC in raw to compare the dynamic range in a shadow/highlight situation like indoor with a window or clouds in blue sky and shadow under a three or building. I think many people would like to see this...

  • lmackreathlmackreath

    A panny lens???.. How could you!!

    Great stuff...

  • vicharrisvicharris

    Here's a few shots from my desert adventure I've been on. Nothing special by any means and these are just random shots I picked out to throw on a quick grade for people to check out. After it's all over I'll put together a well edited little piece. I'm sure people will comment about the aliasing in the power line scene but that's all Youtube there. The original 4444 file shows nothing.

    All shot with the Pany 14-140, I know I know (because I really had to reach out for some of these shots and) and the Rokinon 85mm. Graded in Davinci of course :)

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