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Canon 5D Mark III topic
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  • trayloadertrayloader

    If You launch, or even tease a new camera in this supertight market, PR wise everything has to be bulletproof, or else you fail big time.This company now has a meagre MP improvement to its predecessor, but they completely fail at this point to separate their product from the competition, ergo they have no USP at this point.Combine that with the sub par, amateurish photos and even worse cheap ass videofootage, You have a recipe for pros to leave for another brand.We constantly need "cropability" of our picture, our Artdirectors and commercial clients require that. 22MP after 4 years simply is not enough.

  • jasonpjasonp

    @trayloader

    Pros USE or TEST the camera first, if they like it they keep it, if not, they go for something else. Why so obsessed? You didn't like the PR? So what? Canon has 40-45% of the photo market, they do whatever they want..If you need more crop-ability, go for something else..pretty simple really, no need to whine or act like a 5-year old..

  • mrbillmrbill

    @trayloader - if you're talking about stills, fair enough. If you're talking about video, you've missed the entire point - the pixel count has been capped deliberately to make producing clean hd video easier for the camera. I don't think I've ever heard anybody describe the photos from a 5D mkII as sub par or amateur, or the video as cheap ass. Moiree-ridden under some circumstances maybe..

    What dslr do you use?

  • luca_vasconluca_vascon

    Hi my dears.... I step in. Sorry for my bad english, I'm Italian, I hope the message will arrive nonetheless. I was really waiting for the 5D3, like a lot of us. I'm an hybrid photographer, interaction, video and still. Together. I dedicated last 14 years to develop and push further panoramic interactive pictures, so my needs for a camera are peculiar and narrowed. So that my biggest blessing were always the HACKS, needed to transform a camera in a "special" tool. I own Nikon, Canon, FF and APSC, Sony, Panasonic and Olympus... I did serious paid jobs with hacked Canon compact cameras! In a FF hybrid I'd love to have as many GOOD pixel I can get, the best dynamic possible, the best results possible between iso 100 and 800, an usable 1600-3200, the best, cleanest and usable video out. On axis tripod socket, full tethering and small size are NOT an option. I will need to touch, try and stress 5D3 to know what it is good for, as well as D800 and D800E. From the paper the D800 wins, no match. But if it is true the moire in video is so bad, and if it is so even in the "clean" hdmi... well, no way. Today a 5D2 with magic lantern hack IS a a wonderful tool!!! Will it still be better than 5D3? And GH2 with hack is the right complement, being more videocamera and less moviecamera, filling different gaps and situations. So.. let's relax and WAIT for the results, for the v.1.1 firmwares, for the field tests we will do.

    Knowing the video world, C300, Panny AF101, and Sony NEX V20 - CineAlta have their own place that will never be taken. they are thought to be video cameras only, they adress all video concern, they can be handheld and operated in a video-recording environment without all the rigs, addons and stuff, they have the right manual knobs in the right places. The main trigger shoots a video, and not a picture. Our Vdslr perfectly fit and match some specific needs and places, they develope their unique language, they have to be intended for what they are.

    Peace&Love. Luca.

  • trayloadertrayloader

    @ Jason

    no need for personal attacks like a 4yo, we´re simply talking about a camera.

    As for me I use 5DII,D3X,GH2 (own those) all with removed AA filter, and ll the PhaseOne Backs (rental). The strategy Canon shows at this point is worse than what Panasonic did back then with the GH2. An image of a tool gets formed way before a product launch.If You screw up there, it´s way tougher to come back.

  • vladnikvladnik

    @trayloader I plan to remove gh2 aa filter . can you tell me something about aliasing and moire in video . is there too much of them or is hd usable . can u post some snapshots from video . i saw pictures from gh1 with aa removed and they are magnificent . thanks

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @vladnik @trayloader

    I suggest to make separate topic about Cameras with removed AA filter.

  • vladnikvladnik

    sorry i didn't mean to hijack topic. all i need is one information.not enough to start new .

  • jasonpjasonp

    @trayloder

    I'm not attacking you, no hard feelings, I'm just begging you to stop being obsessed with "product launches" and PR campaigns. Is a "marketing plan evaluation debate" really helpful to us?

    1) You compare Canon to Panasonic or their campaigns? (Canon has x4-5 bigger photo market share ) 2) So you think Canon 5Diii won't sell enough? Or it won't be good enough for pros? I'm trying to understand your point.. :D

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Few test shots (from low to high ISO)

    http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/32182/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-test/

  • luca_vasconluca_vascon

    The test I always make myself are high contrast setups, with large dark areas, and very fine detail and grain. Fruit and rouded objects, fine texturized textiles or wood. In one picture says it all. Unfortunately letsgodigital test is not the best they could set up... When noise looks like film grain it is really helping in printing larger files. When nosie kills dark areas it is BAD..

  • trayloadertrayloader

    Thanks for the new picture link Vitaly- this alone seals my decision to move on to Nikon. Dunno if those are JPGs straight outta cam (guess so) or developed raws (would be worst case scenario).

    The pictures are blurry (look at the fisherman leaning on the pole-ISO 100) and totally lack microcontrast. My 8 year old EOS 1Ds has much better JPGs, so definitely a step backwards.

    Either noise reduction in cam too high (scared of the pattern discussion of the 5DII), or brutal aliasing filter (for video optimized maybe?).

    Flesh tones are also much too red.

    opinions?

  • OedipaxOedipax

    @trayloader, I wouldn't put so much stock in a few random web test shots of unknown origin/processing to determine whether to change camera systems. If it's really a step back in image quality it will be a big story, but I'd say it's still too early to tell.

  • trayloadertrayloader

    RAW wise, I´m shure it will be a bit better than the current 5DII, but the JPGs are no progress. I saw more than 10 pictures, plus my eyes are trained, be sure of that.

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    @Trayloader

    It may be using a pre-production version, but I think you get a much better reference of the 5DMkII vs 5DMkIII by using the comparison earlier linked to for Imaging-Resource.

    Same scene, same ISOs, etc.

    5DMarkII http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E5D2/E5D2THMB.HTM

    5DMarkIII http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-5d-mkiii/canon-5d-mkiiiTHMB.HTM

  • trayloadertrayloader

    thanks for the RAW links- that´s a 5% improvement, hi ISO maybe 10%.

    Ridiculous. Either lazy/greedy, earthquake aftermath, or they hit severe technical wall....

  • mrbillmrbill

    @trayloader - your negativity is becoming tiresome. We get it - you won't be buying one.

  • Amadeus5D2Amadeus5D2

    @mrbill sorry but I'm too not so entranced about canons muddling along ( btw not only canon)...

  • otcxotcx

    Eaven i love my GH2, Canon make one thing right. Body of canon cams like 7D and 5D is awesome. Well shield and not so palstic like in GH2.

  • LucLuc

    Anybody knows if the 5D mk3 has UHS-I support? hahahahahaha

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Luc

    First post, spec sheet, SDXC only. But UDMA capable CompactFlash can be very fast.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Manual:

    http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/8/0300007348/01/eos5dmkiii-im-c-en.pdf

  • andyharrisandyharris

    I've had my EOS5 Mk III for 4 days now. Getting round to switching off all the automation and getting close to good results.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63040616@N03/sets/72157629645200453/

    These were in very dull conditions -- have some better from this evening, will sort and get them up sometime.

    Will be doing some video tests later this week.

  • LucLuc

    Hahahahaha have you got it too Vitaliyyyy :)

  • danyyyeldanyyyel

    It is comical seeing the Canon Pr in action lately. On one side the Fanboys convincing themself and others that the sharpness is better by using all type of sharpening vs not sharpen video from other cameras. An on the other, some well known blogger backtracking from there original thoughts. I would like to see those sharpness applied to the human face and beings, I can guarantee you that it will be ugly. It is easy to saturate or sharpen landscape, but try to do it to human beings.

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