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Digital Bolex raw camera, no longer made
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  • MacalincagMacalincag

  • vladnikvladnik

    im not sure about them ... to much fishy is going on ... first they shot their promo on dbolex then when they got busted they give lame answer .. even their answer about gx2300 doesn't make sense.... why would u modified sensor who is a same as one in your camera ... if u change sensor ( same sensor ?) and then change processing unit what is left... box?

  • MacalincagMacalincag

    @vladnik

    In an interview with the creators they claim the sensor can achieve 12 stops of D.R.

    Phone interview, originally posted on Bloom's blog:

    http://snd.sc/xIH4yU

  • PechentePechente

    The link doesn't work. Wanna see the prototype ;D

  • ttancredittancredi

    let's play LEGO than. I would buy one if @Vitaliy_Kiselev were to play.

  • MacalincagMacalincag

    There was a Q&A on Kickstarter that answers the GX2300 question:

    Q: In the behind the scenes pics, it looks like the camera used is an Allied Vision Technologies Prosilica GX2300. Where's the Bolex??

    A: Hi Gen,

    You are right we did an initial sensor test to make sure that the Kodak chip was the right choice. For this sensor test we modified a GX to have our sensor and processing unit. We loved the images from the sensor so much that we decided to make a short film using it while waiting for the next prototype to come. The current Prototype looks like this...

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  • onlocationonlocation 
      ->its also terrible that they say they shot their film with the prototype and then you see the GX2300 in the BTS.

    Well technically if they are simply re-branding the GX in a more user friendly package, then the Prosilica IS the prototype. ;)

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    I was thinking also. I wouldnt fork out if theres no guarantee

  • robmneilsonrobmneilson

    The motion in the video looked strange to me, its also terrible that they say they shot their film with the prototype and then you see the GX2300 in the BTS.

    If these folks can't deliver their cameras, is there any legal recourse to the people who ponied up $2500 on kickstarter?

  • vladnikvladnik

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev your right about research .... their BTS ... thanks man ..

    they use prosilica gx2300 machine vision camera... there is no dbolex prototype... http://www.alliedvisiontec.com/emea/products/cameras/gigabit-ethernet/prosilica-gx/gx2300.html http://www.alliedvisiontec.com/uploads/pics/Prosilica-GX.jpg

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  • DouglasHornDouglasHorn

    @Mimirsan - No hate, I just thought the footage looked weird. Especially the little girl with the storybook, but the rest of the kickstarter video as well. I just assumed if you're trying to raise over $100K, that you would make the image look amazing, right?

    They said they chose a vintage subject matter for the short because the camera had a "vintage" look. I'm not sure I'd really call it vintage. It seems like the film curve is slanted toward the dark end with a very steep slope and shoulder. You could say it's a bit like cross-processed Ektachrome in that way. But I don't see the rich colors I associate with reversal film.

    Anyway, wishing them the best, but I'll sit on the sidelines. I find it very easy to get several great vintage looks with my GH2 and FD lenses plus a bit of color correction.

    They might be smart to put some raw footage on their Kickstarter page for camera geeks like us to mess around grading. You know we wouldn't be able to help ourselves, and pretty soon there would be a ton of looks and talk about the footage floating around the Interwebs.

  • MacalincagMacalincag

    Why would anyone judge anything on VIMEO?

  • fstopandgofstopandgo

    I wouldn't judge this footage as it was probably already graded.

  • johnnymjohnnym

    yeah, if they post something not "vintage", i might be interested. I like vintage though. Just not this vintage.

    I think the GH2 produces footage a lot more like 16mm than this.

  • OedipaxOedipax

    Ah, that's better. I still don't really dig the look, but it's a step up.

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    Looks pretty nice to me and the above video isn't even in HD

    Will wait to see what comes of it..been waiting for something like the bolex for the digital age for a very long time!

  • OedipaxOedipax

    @Mimirsan, maybe I missed it... is it in the Kickstarter video? What timecode? All I see are nasty flat shots against a wall with terrible lighting and washed out color.

  • stipstip

    Blown out highlights look bad. Hope for more footage.

  • StrayStray

    The choice of a CCD over CMOS could be a stroke of genius, or the opposite, its impossible to say at the moment. Would love to actually see some (preferably outdoor) stills at full res without any CC from the prototype. Or are there some there somewhere, I couldn't find any.

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    The footage (from their short film) looks great. Not sure how it looks "awful" at all. FYI The behind the scenes was probably not shot with the Bolex. So much hate towards a couple of guys trying to make a film-makers camera that's affordable.

    You guys make prejudgement too easily...of course.

  • vladnikvladnik

    @paglez dng to cineform raw ... that's all... same as ikonoskop

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    I strongly suggest to think and make research first.
    As such project can slip it's data by year or two, with no one to blame but you.

  • paglezpaglez

    And the workflow will be compIex, also.

  • vladnikvladnik

    CCD is better than cmos in DR and SNR area .that kodak sensor gives 11 stops .

  • danyyyeldanyyyel

    I really hope it succeeds but I don't like the image. The main problem is the DR, the highlight roll-off is terrible. They went CCD I think for no rolling shutter. But the compromise in term of low light and DR is too much for me.

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