So where do we stand on all of this? Is HBR25p solid in PAL land?

@fran Yes, that's the way.

@fran It is 25p wrapped in 50i. You need to force your NLE to treat it as 25p. In premiere you use "Interpret footage". In FCP (not sure about fcpx) you Conform footage using cinematools

Had the same problem myself found this answer on this forum...

I'm looking for a 1080/25p patch and I tested a few of it in HBR mode like LPowell Flowmotion 1.1 or Quantum. When I insert one clip recorded in HBR in the StreamParser, the stream mode say that it is 1080/50i, and this is usual as can I view in the users screenprints of another patchs. Adobe Premiere (for example) don't recognize the progressive mode, an says that is interlaced. Anyone can help me? Thks

nomad July 14 You'll need to "lie" to the NLE. HBR is progressive footage (i.e. from every 25th of a second) but encoded as interlace.

From the short using 24p25p-NINE footage, 7-14mm on GH2. Can't post the film as in judging. Thanks again!

@mickos

cool! I am glad someone actually used the setting.

I've stopped working on 24p25p-NINE as I couldn't solve the issue with PCR- and Clip-Duration. Also motion doesn't look that good... But for tableau-style work / static scenes it's great!

Maybe I'll further improve this 9GOP setting at a later time.

Here's another setting (just finished) for the very same purposes. It's good old Sanity V3.1 with the HQ Matrix and some other modifications applied.

"Did you test SH and H in PAL? Your settings from the day before did work fine" - strange ... they are exactly the same settings except of the GOP-setting for 1080i60. I've tested 720p50 in PAL mode. SH only, though.

If you use PAL mode maybe just reload these settings (March, 3rd): http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/45642#Comment_45642

@Kihlian

"How differs the Settings from 3rd March from this above? Tryed both only on 25p" - Re PAL modes it's the same. I've only changed the NTSC settings.

"both spans" - cool! On my camera the settings don't span. But maybe it also depends on the birate that is actually allocated; maybe with scenes requiring lower bitrates the patch will span. Attached a new patch for spanning (tested at HBR, 25p only). It's the stock setting with only the following settings changed:

• 30min limit removal=Checked

• Video Bitrate 24H=44000000

• Video Bitrate 24L=32000000

• Video Bitrate FSH/SH=32000000

• Video Bitrate FH/H=24000000

• 1080i50 and 1080p24 GOP Size=12

• 24p25p-NINE-Matrix included

"I have a request since driftwood says that the 720p at 50p intra settings will span (but not 720p 60p) for us PAL users could be prepared a patch that include this settings for shoot slow motions?" - Maybe. As LPowell pointed out above, SH settings may also affect FSH (HBR) mode, so we have to try. I've tried to built in one of Driftwood GOP6 settings for 720p, but the camera crashed.

@Tomaso

"SH and H mode have every other P frame low" - I can't replicate this behaviour on my camera. Actually the 720p settings are copied from the Sanity patch. So I would think they should be okay.

Today I recorded at 25p while driving on the highway. Clip duration is a little over 11 minutes. The stream looks healthy from the beginning to the very end (see attachment)

@towi How differs the Settings from 3rd March from this above? Tryed both only on 25p (it´s the only mode I use) both spans, works also on ex tele and give me an average of about 36500 Kps. Both also playback on camera. (On SanDisk HD Video class 10 30 Mbps. The funny thing is that with diftwood settings the camera remaining time shows about 26 min, and goes down slow, with yours shows about 55 min. and goes down faster. I like your settings. I have a request since driftwood says that the 720p at 50p intra settings will span (but not 720p 60p) for us PAL users could be prepared a patch that include this settings for shoot slow motions? (I´m completely ignorant of preparing settings).

Similar result with GOP 12 for 1080i60 @towi

@towi I have NTSC camera and I ran some tests with 720p60 - great; 24p - great, HBRp30 - failure in one attempt, then finally it looked like it worked filming leaves in large avocado tree in the wind, so almost like a death chart of details. Streamparser indicates some blips, see gone B-frames near frame 194.

Thank you @towi for working so hard for this setting. I liked Ralph's SANITY since it first came out, and I am happy you have continued improving it. Of course, one needs to thank all others that contributed directly and indirectly: Ralph, Driftwood, lpowell, Vitaily, and the many who continue to share so selfishlessly... Al