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Telegram userbase is growing up fast last weeks
  • The new policy of the WhatsApp service, which is owned by Facebook, has led to an acceleration of the mass transition of users to Telegram. This statement was made by the founder of the Telegram messenger Pavel Durov.

    According to him, millions of people were outraged by the latest changes in the WhatsApp user agreement, according to which customers are required to transfer personal data to the Facebook advertising system, including most sensitive data and indexed archives of your private talks.

    It is not surprising that the exodus of users from WhatsApp to Telegram, which has been going on for several years, has accelerated.

    Facebook even made special bots last month to spread false information about Telegram.

    Make sure to join Telegram now, and join PV channel on it! Do not fall for total corporate censorship of Facebook as it is ready to spread it to your private talks soon!

    https://telegram.org/

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  • Telegram became the most popular messenger in Russia

    Its share, according to the analysis of mobile Internet traffic, in the total volume increased from 48% to 63%. For the first time in Russia, Durov's messenger surpassed WhatsApp in popularity, whose share in March fell from 48% to 32%.

  • Lot of new users in Russia

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  • Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes has ordered Apple and Google to help block access to the Telegram messaging app within the country, according to Reuters. The sealed order, handed down today, demands Brazil’s telecommunications agency Anatel officially suspend Telegram until it complies with local orders and pays a series of fines. The news follows accusations that Telegram has failed to prevent users from spreading disinformation as it’s become a communications hub for President Jair Bolsonaro.

    Internal fight :-)

  • Today, a representative of the German Ministry of Justice held a briefing during which he announced the opening of two investigations against Telegram in Germany, including in connection with the lack of a commissioner for its affairs in the country. The Federal Office of Justice launched two fine proceedings against Telegram.

    Earlier, the Minister of the Interior of Germany Nancy Feser (Nancy Faeser) admitted the possibility of blocking Telegram in connection with the systematic failure to comply with the instructions to remove illegal content.

    German fascism is rising its head.

  • German Interior Minister Nancy Feser said in an interview that if Telegram does not remove illegal content, the messenger may be blocked. She also clarified that she considers blocking a serious, even radical method, and first it is necessary to exhaust the possibilities of other mechanisms of legal influence.

    Shits.

  • As noted by Megafon, over the past year messengers have significantly increased the total volume of mobile traffic - an increase of 87%. Instant messaging services are used not only for text communication, and voice communication is becoming more and more popular. At the end of the year, WhatsApp still retained its leadership in Russia, generating 48% of mobile traffic, and this is a decrease by almost a quarter. And Telegram showed an increase of 26% and stopped at 44% of traffic. Megafon believes that if the trend continues, then in early 2022 Telegram will lead the rating of instant messengers in Russia. The popularity of Telegram, experts are sure, is explained by the fact that the service not only combines means for communication, but is itself a news content channel.

    Messenger Viber, according to Megafon, continues to drop out of the race, being content with third place. Only if in 2020 it created 11% of mobile traffic, then this year it was limited to a mark of only 6%.

  • “Yesterday, Telegram saw a record growth in registration and user activity. The daily growth rate of Telegram exceeded the norm by an order of magnitude, and in one day we accepted more than 70 million refugees from other platforms, "- quotes the source of the words of Mr. Durov, who also called on existing users of the service to help newcomers" settle down ". “We will not let you down when others do it,” Durov added.

  • As shown by the study of the company Deloitte "Media consumption in Russia in 2021", the application of the popular messenger Telegram was downloaded in Russia by 61% of Internet users, and 52% of the Internet users actively use it.

    According to available data, the total Telegram audience in the country may exceed 50 million users. This year, Telegram took second place in the local ranking of instant messengers, behind only WhatsApp in Russia, which is used by 82% of respondents. Viber is in third place with 49%.

  • Is good for sharing data without being fackt check

  • According to research firm Sensor Tower, the popular instant messaging app Telegram was among the programs that have been downloaded more than one billion times worldwide. The messenger was launched at the end of 2013, and crossed the threshold of a billion downloads last Friday.

    India is the largest market for Telegram. According to Sensor Tower, the second largest internet market in the world accounts for approximately 22% of all app installs of all time. India is followed by Russia and Indonesia, which account for about 10% and 8%, respectively. 2021 saw a period of rapid growth in the popularity of the messenger. In the first half of this year, the app was downloaded approximately 214.7 million times, up 61 percent from the same period last year.

  • Telegram is expected to pass QQ within 2 months or less

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    Btw, if not total blockade in China it could be at least 3x more popular, as all of Chinese messengers are much inferior in design and usability (despite lot of additional features also present in things like WeChat)

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  • It did not take long

    The American non-profit organization Coalition for a Safer Web (Coalition for a Safer Internet) demanded that Apple remove the Telegram messenger from its app store. It is reported by The Washington Post.

    According to the newspaper, the organization filed a lawsuit with the relevant demand on Sunday, January 17. Its representatives accused the leadership of the messenger of lack of measures against users who spread messages with extremist content, including after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol. The plaintiffs point out that such content violates Apple's app store terms of use.

    It is noted that a similar claim is also planned to be filed against Google. Apple and Telegram have not yet commented on the situation.

  • The developers of telegram sit in Berlin , I thing. That is why I use it here in Germany.
    And to follow pw of course.

  • Signal is back after an outage that lasted more than 24 hours

    Nice stability

    I heard that Signal backend quality is most horrible in the industry, requiring around 4-5 times of hardware to do same things as other messangers can do with fraction of it.

  • Or use all 3 for different things. It's hard to crack into all 3 at the same time.

  • @Meierhans

    So your claim is: As Signal secure e2e encryption could be taken away any day, why not just choose a messenger that does come with this feature right from the start? (Or claims to come with it, but you do not know if its real or not..)

    No, I told you that Signal and alike give you false sense of "safety". But it is totally false.

    About the Signal protocol, sure you can check: https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243

    You can, as well as telegram protocol.

    But this guys just can make custom silent client update and... hoopla and specially for you everything will go directly to proper place.

    Anyhow, I agree that relying onto a centralized messenger like Signal - may it be open source or not - may not be a good idea long term. But at least itm is seems way more secure to me than tlgrm, or even whatsapp, closed source messengers hostet by unknown/badly known party. In case Signal would suddenly change encryption or deliver a client that does so secretly, this would be reported by the community quite soon.

    You miss my points. As you try to go into trap that capitalist made for you.

    And lot of nice developers with various libertarian attitude are quite stupid as I already told, they want to build something stable and usable in the middle of warfire. One rocket or cannon and all will be gone. You already saw it happening around without any masks anymore.

    If it was just about me: I hate any kind of messenger that asks for my phone number... WHY?? Yet I prefer to contact those who are less into tech via Signal - than via whatapp (wurgs..), tlgrm or even plain phone.

    Let me tell you seriously. If you are not young girl or salesman, you need to look for desktop client as desktop is where major talks happen in office or during remote work or such. And Signal don't have anything really usable, contrary to simple fast and best in the industry Telegram app.

  • So your claim is: As Signal secure e2e encryption could be taken away any day, why not just choose a messenger that does come with this feature right from the start? (Or claims to come with it, but you do not know if its real or not..)

    About the Signal protocol, sure you can check: https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243

    Anyhow, I agree that relying onto a centralized messenger like Signal - may it be open source or not - may not be a good idea long term. But at least itm is seems way more secure to me than tlgrm, or even whatsapp, closed source messengers hostet by unknown/badly known party. In case Signal would suddenly change encryption or deliver a client that does so secretly, this would be reported by the community quite soon.

    While I am quite sure you will soon tell me reasons why he is not trustworthy as well.. yet this still counts a bit for me: https://twitter.com/snowden/status/661313394906161152?lang=de

    If it was just about me: I hate any kind of messenger that asks for my phone number... WHY?? Yet I prefer to contact those who are less into tech via Signal - than via whatapp (wurgs..), tlgrm or even plain phone.

    https://conversations.im/omemo/audit.pdf Do you see anything that makes you believe this is not secure?( Asking seriously.)

    Anyhow, maybe nuff is said bout this on this channel? Who knows..

    I propose: 5TƐGAN0 FTW!

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  • @Meierhans

    Why should everybody trust into an client - server based encryption, where the trust into the server can not be garanteed at all? (Since its neither open source, nor is the host itself known to anybody.)

    Let me tell you as guy who had some relation to this.

    All this "open source" and "end to and encryption" as it is presented now in things like Signal is bullshit (to enduser like you). You can't check it and you can't check that it suddenly changed or encryption turned off. For simple ordinary user it can be even worse. As from hands of guys who sell aggregate data and provide access to government you can go right into hands of guys who sell everything almost each day.

    Big thing that all this libertarian guys missing is that they want to build the nice peaceful hut right int he middle of war field. I mean that no one will tolerate this as soon as it will become really popular.

    So, it is certainly good idea to advance towards P2P messenger with end to end encryption that is not using AES and similar protocols contrary to current solutions. But all this math is not enough, you also need usability, speed and many more things.

    ALso remember - you will be thrown out from both mobile app stores almost instantly.

  • @endotoxic Time to choose your master as it seems.. G

    @Vitaly Your answer did not clarify my question. It even seems quite a bit foggy to me. Might be just my personal view, but sorry, could you please be more exact in your answer if possible? Why should everybody trust into an client - server based encryption, where the trust into the server can not be garanteed at all? (Since its neither open source, nor is the host itself known to anybody.) When other, maybe a bit less feature rich ways to chat and talk in a secure manner are available, that work as well for the comm itself?

  • But @peaceonearth, Russians love you, they want your soul, e’ahem..sorry my throat hurts, they want to help you thrive in this world. Data in servers stored ? What are you talking about ? Servers ? What’s that? Telegram put messages on papes by hand and those notes aré stored in a bank with seven locks and a dwarf with black security clothing and it’s only shared when an emergency is due!

  • @peaceonearth

    Having Russian owners doesn't give me a good feeling neither.

    You mean that Mordor KGB will be hunting you down for discussion of recent porn videos? :-)

    telegram doesn't have end-to-end encryption in standard chat. Everything is stored on their servers.

    This is whole point, as you can login at any device and have all chats available. It is usability thing as user expect such behavior now. Techno geeks can not like it much, but it is how it is.

    For any real serious talks use secure chats or custom things.

    Btw some organizations use usual messengers with special custom software that encrypts and decrypts text on the fly, so if you gain access to messenger all you will find is lot of "0x6354BA72635" stuff.

    For any small or medium organization custom solution is most secure - as it require big real expenses to explore and understand. While Signal and such always have special holes for such situations for right people.

  • telegram doesn't have end-to-end encryption in standard chat. Everything is stored on their servers. Maybe only temporarily but who knows. Having Russian owners doesn't give me a good feeling neither. Thanks but no thanks. your turn, Vitaliy :)

  • Niche observations

    80% of WhatsApp contacts this week asked about Telegram and after trying Telegram client for few days most common comment had been - "Is it really possible to make things so nice and smooth and.. just working?"

    Btw, most worried now are the people who had been most vivid BLM and democrat supporters :-) It seems they feel where all is going with their gut.