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4K is officially Dead... Greet your new 8K Masters...
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  • Workers jumping out the windows of the Foxconn America plant will not have nets to catch them, but trampolines which bounce the worker back to the assembly line. Trump: America is bouncing back to work! Beautiful beautiful jobs! On second thought, we won't have windows. Just fake rubber windows of the Chinese countryside! You'll still bounce back if you try to jump out!

  • Seriously - 8k capture will be great for HD-4k. Loving the punch in lately. So useful. If 8k becomes the TV standard we will need 16k ASAP.

  • Being an early adopter on 4K, I'd advise waiting for 2nd gen 8K monitors to hit with 120Hz Refresh rate, newer connectivity, better HDR brightness (1000 nit minimum) and higher Contrast ratio ...

    Now that Philips 328P8K monitor is jumping in to compete against the Dell, price points for these 8K monitors are actually dropping just as fast as when 4K monitors came to market, from $5000 down to $3400 for this Phillips or $3699 for the Dell (previously $5000, just 6 months ago).

    See the Sharp 27" 8K display specs for comparison (though 27" is far too small):

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/10732/ceatec-2016-sharp-showcases-27-inch-8k-120hz-igzo-monitor-with-hdr-also-1000-ppi-for-vr

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  • https://www.sony.de/pro/press/pr-sony-unveils-first-8k-system-camera

    Here's one of the many 8k 120p cameras I've been talking about all along, which will impact the future of 2D acquisition

    http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/09/16/sony-uhc-8300-8k-broadcast-camera-venice-and-vr-ibc-2017/

  • AUO Presents World’s Largest(*) 8K 4K Bezel-less TV Display

    HSINCHU, Taiwan, Sept. 19, 2017 /PRNewswire/ — AU Optronics Corp. (“AUO” or the “Company”) (TAIEX: 2409; NYSE: AUO) will participate in Touch Taiwan 2017 at Taipei Nangang Exhibition Center from September 20 to 22 to showcase a full lineup of advanced large-sized display technologies and products. Exhibition highlights include enhanced ALCD technology with advanced HDR (high dynamic range) introduced to the full series, including the world’s largest() 85-inch 8K4K (7680 x 4320), and 65-inch and 75-inch UHD 4K (3840 x 2160) bezel-less ALCD TV displays; the world’s first() 27-inch and 35-inch gaming monitor panels equipped with advanced HRD technology; and a variety of public information display solutions featuring high resolution, high brightness, extreme narrow bezel and stretched type, which could be tailored to customer requirements to support content of diverse kinds to be eminently displayed in varied environments.

    Enhanced ALCD Technology for Ultimate Home Theater Audio-Visual Experience AUO continues to strengthen its technology edge of high contrast and wide color gamut by presenting an enhanced version of ALCD technology. Through a comprehensive HDR design, the display can achieve as high as 2000-nit brightness with significantly higher contrast. Its low reflective quality helps to deliver high HDR image quality even in daylight, perfectly capturing both bright and dark image details. By adopting environmentally-friendly cadmium-free quantum dots with high color saturation, the display can reveal rich and detailed color depth, with a wide color gamut exceeding NTSC 110% in all environments, boasting an overall higher image quality than OLED TV. Having been the first(*) to present bezel-less display on all four sides, AUO applies its self-developed GOA (Gate on Array) technology to significantly lower the number of display driver ICs and expand the display viewing area. This not only allows for a seemingly boundless, holistic view, but also a sleek and stylish appearance.

    AUO leverages its advantages in technological integration and has again achieved specification breakthrough to introduce the world’s largest(*) 85-inch 8K4K bezel-less ALCD TV display with 120Hz high refresh rate to deliver smooth motion flow with impressive image quality. The features of 8K4K images are thoroughly manifested through the large-sized TV panel. From mountains standing afar to objects and figures up close, all images demonstrate stunning clarity and stereoscopic effect, as if all characters have stepped out of the screen, vividly depicting the most exquisite image details and true colors. When marveling the large-sized screen, the audience can perceive the most intricate image details.

  • http://www.ecns.cn/business/2018/04-12/298933.shtml

    "...But the price of an 8K TV is more than four times higher than a 4K set. Chen told China Daily that Foxconn will release a new 8K TV this year at a price equivalent to 4K sets, or even cheaper."

  • @NickBen

    It is small issue, as 8K make any sense from 80-85".

    And physically it is just 4 cheap 40" 4K panels.

  • Not surprisingly, Cellphone manufacturers using the Sony IMX586 stacked CMOS image sensor or above for smartphone cameras will continue ushering us into the "affordable" High Resolution (48MP, even higher than the A7RIII) & High framerate capture era (4K 90 FPS, 240fps 1080p), while prosumer video/photo manufacturers lead from behind attempting to profit from every tiny spreadsheet feature addition to their minor changes on their slow march to 8K 120fps in 2020, while Youtube influencers are easily manipulated with vague simple promo videos about FF mirrorless lens mounts (ahem, Nikon... Canon) to generate more clicks for premium priced Amazon links to their future profit margins...

    Interesting times ahead again for the next couple years when consumers can say- my cellphone camera has more features than your "prosumer" gear- this has happened at the tail end of most format changes, when prosumer manufacturers only offer pro features in the old format at the end of the lifecycle, while the consumer formats march forward first...

    At least it is progress, considering the present few sensor manufacturer options...

    July 23, 2018

    Sony Releases Stacked CMOS Image Sensor for Smartphones with Industry’s Highest1 48 Effective Megapixels2 Featuring World First*3 Ultra-compact Pixel Size of 0.8 μm

    https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201807/18-060E/index.html

  • Holding out for 64K.

  • It's not the first not likely to be the last "resolution upgrade". If we're looking down the film industry, we still do delivery in 2K. I rarely had to color grade and deliver for theater in 4K and the difference was invisible to an "untrained" eye and it was surely not in sharpness (which is what everyone would expect) but rather in color and brightness which are separates thing from resolution. For video game players who need their screen to be their "surrounding" and usually get closer to the screen, I can dig the need of 4K even though we are talking about very minor changes.

    Steve Yedling (DoP of The Last Jedi) has a great course on Resolution formats. In his demo, there's no difference to the human eye at normal distance from a screen to view a 12K IMAX scan compared to a 2K Arri Alexa whichever you convert for another medium format (meaning you can uprez 2K to 12K and still have the same sharpness compared to an original 12K file). Sharpness is mosty the result of micro contrast between edges and color rendition. It used to be the case for SD vs HD but now we have 1080p it barely even matter if not completely.

    One funny test is to have a checkboard and divide it by two multiple times. At one point (around 3K) the screen will be all gray (even on a 8K screen). Your brain automatically correct what it sees, beautiful engineering there...

    The real deal here for that kind of need and what it creates (because it just isn't about 8K only) is the need of faster bandwidth and Disk Drive for the masses. If these fails to deliver, this 8K technology will just remain a myth.

  • Japanese broadcaster NHK has confirmed its long-held plans to start 8K broadcasts by the end of this year by announcing a brand-new channel, BS8K, that will launch on December 1st.

  • https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2018/09/05/lg-8k-oled-tv-first-impressions-beauty-in-waiting/#396526145d8a

    "...The 8K detail difference is easily visible from viewing distances of 4m and beyond too; don’t be fooled by shots of people with their noses pressed against 8K TVs as if to say that’s the only way you can appreciate what they do.

    Having said that, it is at least worth getting up close and personal with the LG 8K OLED for a minute or two, if only to better understand how its hugely increased ‘pixels per inch’ versus similarly large 4K TVs makes such a surprisingly substantial difference from more regular viewing distances. There’s no jagged edging around curved or angled object edges, no softness, and practically no visible pixel structure - all of which would be visible up close on a similarly sized 4K TV..."

  • @NickBen

    Well, actually everyone can check it - just look at 40-43" 4K TVs at nearest store, as this new 8K sets is just 4 of such panels placed together :-) With absolutely no difference in real DPI.

  • https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/canon-says-8k-eos-r-cinema-camera-is-a-possibility-and-they-will-consider-adding-on-sensor-stabilization-in-future-models/#disqus_thread

    I find this rumor post hillarious... Canon served their customers a turd in a mirrorless box for the 2018-2019 launch, then a week later attempting to "polish the turd" in the mirrorless box saying points 4. and 5. in their interview:

    4. Of course we can expect lower and higher end EOS-R models to be released in the near future

    5. Canon is considering making a 8k Cinema EOS-R camera.

    Even Canon is scared of losing market share in the years old race to 8K and need to float the "almighty 8K" to try and sway customers to their system...

    It's like saying "OH YEAH..., And my car is so fast it can break the speed of sound!" (... when you drop it off the back end of the Space Shuttle cargo bay while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere)

    Who knew the Japanese Canon Managers have such a sense of Humor- trolling 2018 customers!!!

  • Article: 8K TVs Are Here Already: What You Need to Know

    https://www.tomsguide.com/us/8k-tvs-faq,review-5723.html

    "But the technology has been in development for years. Panasonic was showing off a 145-inch 8K plasma display back in 2012..."

    Panasonic and Sony have all the incentive to release 8K cameras to go with their 8K TV's for CES 2019 in 100 days from now. I'd hope Samsung jumps into the camera fray again, as they are already releasing their TV now...

  • 8K Mobile streaming over 5G...

    https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018/09/14/france-televisions-teams-with-nokia-for-first-8k-streaming-over-5g/

    In this case, unlike with Microsoft, this "Streaming" is not simply pissing onto a phone/company

  • 4th Generation Teche VR camera reviewed by CreatorUp!

    "Today we take a first look at a brand new 360 VR Camera - Teche TE720 Pro - a 15K Virtual Reality Camera that is under $3000 with unique features that will WOW you. "

    Of course, the camera is not a true 8K or 15K 2D camera, but the chinese manufacturers seem more interested in bringing futuristic camera types than the Japanese or US companies...

    The Insta 360 Pro II looks superior from an ease of use and feature set for a higher price however, but if you value time, certainly worth the differential ...

  • Today, Panasonic announces a slide showing we make 8K... but you can't have it yet, not even on the future cameras we just announced...

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  • The Manifold Camera system:

    "Filming the Future with RED and Facebook 360"

    https://facebook360.fb.com/2018/09/26/film-the-future-with-red-and-facebook-360/

    "Manifold is the first professional camera to fully capture a spherical set of images to accurately recreate entire scenes. The unique combination of camera arrangement and set-ready capabilities makes it an ideal capture tool for professional cinematographers.

    Here’s what’s inside:

    SENSORS 16 RED(R) Helium 8K(R) Sensors arranged to allow full 360 6DoF capture Record raw from 16 cameras running 8k @60 fps simultaneously

    OPTICS Custom Schneider 8mm, F4.0, 180 degree fish eye lenses..."

    as impressive as this 8K 360 rig at 60fps is, it's still just not fast enough framerate (they really need to up it 120fps, they are just almost there), but resolution is on point compared to every other one I've seen

  • That Philips monitor is taking its time...

  • @Videoist ahh, chipsets, chipsets... delayed HDMI 2.1 deployment has certainly been gumming up the works for many as silly as it sounds (same happened with original 4K sets being feature incompatible with HDR over old HDMI cable, requiring new chipsets). So, the early adopter fee never ceases...

    I really wish set manufacturers stuck to making panels like the original 4K panels launched with minimal electronics, copy protection and smart features... but they need to spy on us apparently for all the legally allowable reasons

  • 8K TVs predictions

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  • Samsung’s Exynos 9820 with 8K stuff

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    • ARM Mali-G76 MP2 graphics
    • Integrated NPU (Neural Processing Unit)
    • Support for up to a 4096 x 2160 (or 3840 x 2400) pixel display
    • Support for 8K@30fps or 4K@150fps video encoding and decoding (H.265/HEVC, H.264, and VP9)
    • Support for cameras up to 22MP (front and rear) or 16MP + 16MP dual cameras
    • Support for UFS 2.1 or UFS 3.0 storage
    • 4 LTE Cat 30
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