@Mackinise It's a real shame because it's v close to being brilliant, but even if the wifi/app whatever it is about it that's not working worked you'd still want the X5 for pro work. I only bought it because I couldn't afford to stand around balancing a gimbal for 10 mins with a bunch of students but the fact it's taking as long with the software - and sometimes longer because I try forever before uninstalling and reinstalling which seems to do the trick of making it realise I'm not flying a drone - makes it a waste of money for me. It is a real shame because in good light the image is pretty nice and if you did just turn it on and it did it's thing how it should then it would be a great thing just to have in the bag. It feels a bit of a black magic experience at the moment, not being able to shoot 4K for a while there was like what so they had to bring out an update to fix the update. I do think in 3 months or whatever it will be fine. It was also annoying that I bought 2 spare batteries as an early adopter and then they started giving away the second battery with it, thought thanks very much!

This is sooooooooo annoying. Time after time after time you get the wifi going on the camera and when you enter camera view on the app on the phone it thinks you're using a drone. I've only just had chance to use it and even though I've spent £100 on extra bits and bobs it is going to have to go back, totally unreliable. Shame, in a year I'm sure it will be great, specially if they drop the price on the X5 massively.

Anyone else got one of these having trouble recording in 4K? When I set it to 4K I get a scrambled picture on the phone then it turns itself off after 7 secs and resets at 1080, bit weird. The camera never seems to return to it's centre point when turned, almost makes it but not quiet and the fan noise is so loud external mics pick it up. Beginning to think mine must be a bit dodgy but maybe I am.

@MRfanny The most interesting thing about this 'test' was finding out how shit I am at testing anything! Getting the settings the same everywhere isn't in my nature! The nearest I have to the Osmo's 20mm equivalent is the 12-35 so that's what I used at 12mm which makes it around 28 I guess. What I found was that to properly expose the Osmo manually in the same circumstances as the GH4, both at 2.8, 24p & 4K, the Osmo needed to be at 3200 when the GH4 needed to be at 1600 and the image on the Osmo was noisier either way. When the Osmo was put in auto mode it shifted the ISO to 1600 and dropped the SS to 25 so it looked better than the manual 3200. I think this may have been a bit of what gave the impression it was better in low light - and watching it on the phone - but it looks like it is actually worse. You'll see there is moire going on in the cushions, I got this even with cupboard door edges in the kitchen units in the house but it was fine when dropped down to 1080 or even exported as it was the file would then look OK. The cushions are almost OK when compressed to 1080 but still the odd small freakout. What was very pleasing was that I shot in Standard on the Gh4 as I guessed this would be pretty much a match and it was, so you could cut it together with GH4 footage in Standard. Here are examples of the GH4 then manual then manual at 3200 and then auto at 1600 and SS 25. It's not pretty! The password is osmo

@MRfanny from just mucking about and using them both in similar circumstances it looks better. I'll try and do a side by side over the weekend and try cutting it with some GH4 profiles. I teach screen acting a lot of the time and that's my main reason for getting it so students can capture moving shots easily, think I will keep it just for that, if I can get a wireless receiver mounted I can get guide audio anyway. I can't get over the build quality. @Mcinise biggest problem apart from audio so far has been shooting 4k the camera view on the phone keeps breaking down. Going to see how much of the fan noise gets picked up on the shotgun this weekend.

Hahahaha. I guess I derailed the topic. We considered a lakeland, before we got Alvin. Only frustration with him, is that he loves digging holes in the back yard... can dig a trench with minimal effort.

Nice dog.

I have a wire fox terrier.

The dog! You can hear the audio is well ropey. But now I will read instructions! Maybe it can be better. You can add a piece to mount a receiver for a wireless mic and go in via 3.5mm but my worry is I'd need to be fairly close because of the wide angle - though maybe cropping in 4K is the better option - and might pick up the fan noise anyway, will give it a test.

@belfryman After reading your reply I did a little more digging. It seems the Osmo X3 may have a few issues with fan noise and compression artifacts. Supposedly, the 4k has more issues than the 1080p.

Have you had any of these issues?

@belfryman Thinking about getting one of these. How does the 4k footage compare to the GH4? Do you feel the two can be easily matched?

http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/9/9695822/dji-osmo-camera-gimbal-stabilizer-price-specs-review