@proaudio4 When doing the test which applied stress to my patch super extremely now, the error came out... Can't this patch clear your extream stress test? Although I am going to improve again, please test with this current state... :-( Thank you!
@Stray Thanks for info. "Have you seen how low the framelimit is on Driftwoods 176M intra ?" Of course, I know! Also when I began to make AQ3, it started with low FL and QV=26 at first. However, since I wanted to make a multiple or more into one, I surely suffered troubles. I think that the problem which I have is being stabilized and being unable to produce super extreme stress... :-(
Hey - just want to let you know that your settings are great. So much better than the original GH2. I was shocked at first when all my footage started stuttering - but that was because i played it from the GH2 and not from my HDD. Will upload some footage in the near future ;) Keep up the great work
I print my charts. Make sure to print at your printers highest DPI. Check and compare static shots on the chart.
Also, for a second test, pan across the chart. I have a motorized base where I can fix the speed control. This way I can compare how well each setting has with motion. Since the pan speed is fixed between different tests, it works great for comparing motion.
I work for Océ (part of Canon) in the printer division so I will print it in high res at work next week. We have professional graphic printers with insane DPI sizes so that must be possible.
With regards to your last posts, what setting do you recommend? @cbrandin 66M?
I just want to settle for the best stable version without issues for some upcoming shoots. If I interpret your post in the right way, the lower bitrate low GOP settings are not recommended by you because of stability and stream issues. What about @Driftwood's GOP3 132M and GOP1 176M? Your insight is appreciated, I love your well documented posts.
@sohus Yep, the cbrandin 66M and 44M are stable, as is his new max variation 66M patch. However, I did spend a lot of time, as have others, with Driftwoods 132M GOP3 and it is very stable. I haven't spent any amount of time at all shooting with/testing the 176M GOP1, and I don't think I'm likely too for a while yet (it is after all still being tweaked by Driftwood). But thats me, YMMV. Your best bet is to take the time shooting with all the stable patches, and also try to shoot scenes similar to your upcoming shoots. Check the footage out, particularly in post if you imagine you'll be doing at least some post work after the shoot. Then decide. Its impossible to make hard and fast recommendations as to what patch to use, we all have different eyes and different styles and workflows. I would be concerned about taking the 176M GOP1 out to a shoot as your only option, I think that would be madness at the moment, and I think Driftwood would agree. However maybe there are people here who have really shot with it, properly, who can vouch for it.
Edit : I've also been shooting with bkmcwds 66M GOP6 for some shots, but I mostly use the cbrandin 66M max variation patch with the AQ set to 3 at the moment. I do have an 88M GOP12 AQ2, but recent discoveries have raised concerns in me with it, so I'm going to look at it again properly tomorrow. It did pass all the usual tests, and real world shooting looked good, but still,.. I plan to look at it again. If only to see if it can be squeaked up to AQ3. If I wanted a GOP3 I'd always reach for the 132M at the moment.
Driftwood Your last 176M GOP1 v3 increased i-frames by 100K. Nice work. Also it passed Stray's extreme dense test chart. 14-140 lens (140mm) f5.6, 1/1600 SS, ISO3200. Passed static and motion tests without error.
Most import, each frame looks like a jpeg. It plays back with a much better vibe and is felt like you're watching a series of pictures. More movie like for sure.
@proaudio4 your right driftwoods 176 GOP1 v3 is insane tried it out and I was blown away, each frame is really like a picture. There is something about I-Frame motion and visually it's soo RED like, more like a real motion picture camera. For now that will be my go to patch, got a music video shoot next week that's what I'll be using..
OK guys here is lowlight test with three of driftwoods patches, all screen grabs off H.264 playback, no grades, no sharpening
1: 132mbit GOP3 2: 176mnit GOP1 V3 (Quant Me Baby) 3: 244mbit GOP1 (smooth as fuck)
IMO 244mbit GOP1 is the king, followed closely by the 132(havent done day tests, but Ive heard 132 is amazing... especially in the day... IDK what I-Frame size is but IDK 244 looks sooooooo good
@PerryWilson great test by the way. They all look great IMO, but for some reason 176mb/s GOP1 v3 looks so organic to me I tried it out on my GH2 both day time & night time the still grabs that I'm viewing on my computer really looks like stills. That's just my opinion, but keep them coming.
what is I-Frame size and what is the up side to having larger I-Frames... man I hope driftwoods shoot is going good, and excited for him to get back at it... all we need is a good movie profile a good flat S-log profile