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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    for multicamera concert shoots?

    if the concert is in daylight ;-) The BMPCC is no available light camera

  • olli66olli66

    oh, the new price makes me consider...what do you guys think? would it fit my gh2/gh3/gh4 lineup for multicamera concert shoots? what do I need to record externally to hdd and hook it up to a power socket so I can shoot more than just 1h straight?

  • manila57manila57

    Just cancelled an order with an Aussie supplier for one at the "reduced" price as it went from "in stock" at time of ordering and paying to 3-7 days before next shipment to 3 weeks plus today. Already have two bodies so no real issue. Guess I will be getting the A7S a little earlier !

    A local Aussie store is advertising it at $799 with limited availability from mid August so a lower price level before a new one comes out?
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    So basically they can't get stock at the reduced price. This will probably keep happening (sigh).

    It is ok, as it seems like BM stock was really low, and it is same for all resellers.

  • _gl_gl

    Now that's weird, 3D Broadcast is cheap again. What's going on?

    .. ah "We have managed to secure another 10 Pocket cameras at the special price but they will be on a 14 day lead time from the UK distributor (posted 24/07/2014)"

    So basically they can't get stock at the reduced price. This will probably keep happening (sigh).

  • _gl_gl

    Ouch. ProductionVideo and ESV too. You were right VK, total mismanagement.

    The ones I see are still cheap (UK):

    (free battery) http://www.jigsaw24.com/blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-camera/large-sensor/-/fcp-product/19416?gclid=COqX_tOC3r8CFW3JtAod_z8ANw

    http://www.ukdigital.co.uk/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera.html

    http://www.proav.co.uk/blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-camera "massive demand, stock in about 2 weeks"

    (EDIT: 3D broadcast has gone too) - AND CHEAP AGAIN?? http://www.3dbroadcastsales.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=pocket+cinema+camera

  • arknoxarknox

    CVP (Creativevideo) in the UK now showing the pocket cam back at normal price. Blackmagic must have completely misjudged demand at the 50% reduction, no surprise! So much for a "summer" sale. 3D Broadcast still showing the 50% off.

  • davjddavjd

    I'm going to try adapt a 3" loupe to the Bmpcc by using a 35mm slides empty box. I will apply the lens on the back of the box. The box fits perfectly on the Bmpcc lcd. Will let you know how it goes...

  • DjangoDjango

    @matt_gh2 I used an external monitor for just about all of it. For the few handheld shots I was either using a FigRig with an 7" external monitor clamped onto it, or a shoulder mount with a viewfinder that I improvised from some parts that I found on Amazon, since there were no viewfinder loupes available when we started shooting. Focus was fairly easy with the focus peaking when using either, but I would not recommend using the viewfinder to judge exposure, although the zebras do work well enough when set at 85-90% (I don't like clipped highlights if I can help it). Best bet for exposure is always a light meter, and they do not have to cost much...

    The difference with the GH2 is that you are recording more or less what you see on the LCD. When shooting in RAW, unless you have some way of applying a LUT at the monitor level, what you see on the LCD is very different from what you can get once graded.

  • DjangoDjango

    @tinyrobot I think it was about 15 minutes to an external HDD on USB 3.0, although I am not quite sure since someone else was doing the actual transfers/backups.

  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @Django Congrats on completing the feature. I'm curious if you were able to use the screen to judge focus and exposure, or did you rely on an external monitor. We shot recently a feature on GH2 and were able to use LCD for both, so wondering if that's doable on a Pocket camera. Definitely post the trailer when it's ready - I'd love to check it out.

  • DjangoDjango

    We shot about 2700GB in all, shot over the course of 18 days. Most days the five cards were enough, but on some days we had to dump and format during production. The shooting ratio was about 7:1, so fairly conservative. Feel free to ask away as far as shooting a feature on the BMPCC.

  • tinyrobottinyrobot

    @Django How long did it take you to backup a full 32gb card? Was it card reader to external or internal hdd through usb 3? Would like to know an aprox time for a full 64gb card through usb 3. Thanks.

  • IronFilmIronFilm

    Thanks, and wow, five cards! But then again you did shoot a feature! May I ask out of curiosity, how many gigs of footage did you end up with in the end? (and what was your shooting ratio?) How many days of shooting did it take? (ahh... so many questions about using a BMPCC raw for shooting a feature!)

  • DjangoDjango

    @Ironfilm I have 4 32GB Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/S cards and 1 64GB 95MB/s that I recently shot a feature on. All sot in RAW. With about 3TB of footage there was not a single dropped frame, so the only advantage that I see as far as the 64GB card is concerned is the extra recording time.

  • IronFilmIronFilm

    As my plan is to buy just one card for trying out occasional raw recording, and then my other existing fast cards I got for my hacked GH1 ought to be fast enough for using with ProRes on the BMPCC.

    My intention for the BMPCC is just for occasional raw recording (to play about with, as in reality I'll likely stick with ProRes HQ for most project) I am wondering if I can get away with the 32gig Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s , as I've heard some reports it won't work. Or if I have to get the 64gig Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s.

    http://rubenkremer.nl/.../bmpcc-sd-card-compatibility-list/

    Sooo...... 32gig Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s, yes/no?

  • _gl_gl

    VK, the Transcend throughput looks good, but it's not a guarantee that the Pocket will play nicely with it right? Depending on how it writes to it (chunk size, timing etc). Anybody tried it? Might give it a go when my bodies arrive (return if it doesn't work).

    Not many people selling it yet in UK:

    7dayshop £59: http://www.7dayshop.com/memory-cards-and-usb-flash-drives/sd-cards/64gb-sd-cards/transcend-64gb-sdxc-uhs-i-u3-card-1

    Amazon UK: £65 (from Amazon): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Ultimate-Performance-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00J3KA9HC/ref=sr_1_9?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1406064854

    Ebay (Hong Kong, no 'fake' feedback) £51: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321410886874

    Worldwide lifetime warranty (used it once on an old card, no issue getting it replaced by Transcend UK).

  • _gl_gl

    @andyharris, no idea if it's legit, but they probably meant to say 'will withdraw the Pocket offer'. It's conceivable that BMD UK sold more cameras than expected, and are culling the offer early. That would be poor form though when they officially announced until end of August, so I doubt it.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Situation with BMPCC for now

    US

    UK

    Small conclusion - total marketing and logistics fail from BM side.

  • andyharrisandyharris

    @vitaliy -- Fair play only included it for reference - I'll be tempted by a pocket when I get my gimbal on the Hex sorted.

    Withdrawn is a strong statement!

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @andyharris

    I removed link due to obvious advertising message of this guys. Ignore them.

  • andyharrisandyharris

    Pocket Camera Withdrawal ??

    Came across this statement on 3dbroadcast sales:

    According to Holdan UK the UK distributor for Blackmagic, BMD are going to withdraw the Blackmagic Pocket Camera within the next 24-48hrs. We currently have 6 Pocket cameras available at this price (Due back in stock end of this week). Once they are gone the price will have to rise back up to £558 ex vat so get yours now whilst we have stock at this price.

    How can the price go up if they are gone ? is there a new version on the way?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @cantsin

    What is not true? You did personal tests? I linked you to the test results, if some Transcend card before did not worked it does not mean that all Transcend cards won't.

  • cantsincantsin

    @Vitaly unfortunately not true. Maybe the BM Pocket has some hard-wired SD card vendor check in firmware (and perhaps BM has a deal with Sandisk), but Sandisk Extreme Pros are the only cards on which raw recording works. Other cards may well be used for ProRes. Transcend is equal, but not in the Pocket...

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Hmmm.... is it true that if I want to record CinemaDNG RAW then I have no choice but to buy the "SanDisk - 64 GB SDXC Memory Card Extreme Pro Class 10 UHS-I"

    No, check http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8688/sdhc-uhs-speed-class-3-cards-for-4k#Item_49 Transcend latest cards seems equal.

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