What squeezing ratio can now be used? Up to 1.5x?
That's true. Once the CD O7 comes out, it will challenge the outlook for some of the medium to higher priced monitor manufacturers, especially if CD can quickly get the features into their firmware. The O7Q interests me, future firmware, it will record up to 4 cams in 1080p in 10-bit compressed format, all timecode sync, make my post work easier, and I get to hire it out to some clients. Just some thoughts. Thank you for your reply.
the Odyssey model(s) unfold with CD's firmware roadmap.
It is different beats by themselves.
I am sure that new models and new features will come to more affordable monitors.
Thanks @Vitaliy_Kiselev . Probably wait and see where the Odyssey model(s) unfold with CD's firmware roadmap.
Has 2x anamorphic desqueeze now become possible with this monitor or other model? Thank you.
I think not. As I understand it is issue with user hardware and its limitations.
Back in January, pages 2-4 of this thread, we were exploring 2x anamorphic desqueeze settings. It was not possible then. @Vitaliy_Kiselev, I understand that communication with the manufacture was to follow, a view toward possible firmware update.
Has 2x anamorphic desqueeze now become possible with this monitor or other model? Thank you.
It's because people aren't reading the specs on monitors over there. They are just plugging cameras into anything and then complaining. As long as the monitor excepts 1080P, you're fine. There's been an update to the pocket where other monitors are now working but I'm not 100% on that situation.
Just wondering whether it'll work, the BMCC seems pretty picky where monitors are concerned.
I see no reasons why it must have any problems here.
Apologies if this has been answererd, but has anyone used the SDI version of these monitors with the BMCC? Just wondering whether it'll work, the BMCC seems pretty picky where monitors are concerned. Thanks.
From now on each and every monitor offered will be manually tested for spills on different brightness, and ones with not good parameters send back to manufacturing.
How does the monitor coop with the conversion of a 1080i hdmi signal to a 720p/800p display. Is the 1080i actually a 1080p stream like with the 25/30p modes? Does it deinterlace or can one experience interlace artifacts on moving subjects? And if it deinterlaces, does it end up with a representative resolution for 720p/800p?
Hmm, interesting question. By idea, all normal monitors make deinterlacing and after this scale as usual, no difference with 1080p.
I've got one more question. How does the monitor coop with the conversion of a 1080i hdmi signal to a 720p/800p display. Is the 1080i actually a 1080p stream like with the 25/30p modes? Does it deinterlace or can one experience interlace artifacts on moving subjects? And if it deinterlaces, does it end up with a representative resolution for 720p/800p?
Thing here is to make more strict panel tests and selection.
I'm sorry, It was my intention to be more constructive and certainly not to put any negativity on the dealproducts. I am actually near the point of ordering one 7" monitor. The backlight thing worries me a bit among the general value of using a monitor in the field. It already takes to much time to prepare the equipment during a hike. A monitor would gain time with focus and better exposure options.
@Vitalliy_Kiselev I perfectly understand that this is a panel manufacturing problem but monitors should be checked for this before sending to customers especially that this seems like a known problem. They told me that they will improve quality control but for me it doesn't matter anymore, with brightness all the way down this is acceptable.
LOL. No it is not "ones that didn't survive the quality criteria". Photo is took at certain brightness and certain angle. Plus it is few of big amount of monitors sold via deals. Such leak happen due to panel manufacturing if edges are not tensioned properly.
Backlight bleeding looks terrible. Maybe these are the ones that didn't survive the IKAN VK7i quality criteria. Do IKAN users report these same issues?
I've received my parcel yesterday, nicely packaged, overall good impression until i turned it on. Spill in the bottom right corner is actually messing up the image quite a lot, when i turn down backlit in settings to 0 and switch to 16:9 aspect ration (small bars on top and bottom) it's acceptable. When i asked them about it they blamed screen manufacturer which is kind of funny it should be their responsibility to quality control the monitor as a whole unit before sending it to the customers. Anyway build quality (apart from the bloody spill) is good, screen is sharp, packaging is nice so i don't think anyone has to worry that parcel will be damaged during transport, it's definitely worth that price.
Actually, I have the same question regarding motion blur. I was recently given a Marshall V-LCD50-HDI, and it is my first external monitor (connected to GH3).
While I like having the larger screen, it has A LOT of motion blur compared to the GH3's OLED screen. Great for a still shot, but when there is movement of either camera or subjects, I don't see the advantage of having the larger screen for focusing...it is all a blur until everything is still.
So, back to the question: How is the motion blur compared to the GHx's monitor?
Looking for responses from actual owners.
Researching the web it also seems that although IPS panels offer better colours, sharper image and wider viewing angles, they can suffer from the motion blur effect.
I have big trouble understanding that you want really. It is good panels suitable for the task.
Would OLED (eg Odyssey 7) be any better in this regard?
OLEDs have their own flaws. Including price, burnown (you can't have any icons on same places), bad outside performance, color shifts and degradation with time.
The specs I found show the panel to have a response time of 25ms and 256k colours (these figures not shown on the Neway website). Researching the web it also seems that although IPS panels offer better colours, sharper image and wider viewing angles, they can suffer from the motion blur effect.
Dang, it seems I have answered my own question! Still, if anyone can check this out I would be most grateful. I have a feeling that this problem is common to most LCD panels, and only the very expensive professional products have managed to minimize the effect.
Would OLED (eg Odyssey 7) be any better in this regard?
Cheers.
I'm very interested in buying the CL76HO-X monitor, and have found the comments and observations on this thread very helpful. One question to existing users though: Is there much image lag/motion blurring when doing medium to fast panning?
One of the ways I would like to use this monitor is via component connection from a Panasonic HPX502 with a 55X box lens attached and a 1080 50i signal from the camera. Often I find myself fully zoomed in on this lens whilst trying to maintain sharp focus on a walking presenter from 50 metres. I've tried other cheapish monitors for this but the motion blur makes it very difficult to focus until the subject stands still.
Any comments?
Thanks in advance
Got my hdmi version yesterday. Overall, great value for money, though it would have been nice if the zoom in was a bigger magnification. I eyeballed mine against the $25k Barco flatscreen in our grading suite, and the settings below are a pretty good match - you may find them useful in setting up yours. Backlight leakage very similar to jpeg posted above.
brightness - 55, contrast - 16, chroma - 75, sharpness - 10, tint - 45, colour temp - 9300, backlight - 80.
I was expecting to run the monitor at 6500 colour temp, but this gets me closer to the reference flatscreen. Very happy camper for the money.
Does monitor show audio levels? Would be helpful with GH3, since they go off screen so quickly.
Is it very reflective, when used outdoors? Can direct sunlight hurt the screen?
They now control new panels batches much more closely to make leaks as small as possible if ever present.
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