Sirya: True democracy is near

Vitaliy_Kiselev

SYRIA's president has reached "a point of no return" and faces the same fate as former despots in Libya and Iraq, Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said.

Turning to the ongoing unrest and military crackdown in Syria, Clinton bluntly warned the situation could devolve into an all-out civil war. She says the U.S. wants to see a peaceful, non-violent opposition, but blamed the President Bashar Al-Assad regime for provoking defectors to take up arms.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul said there was "no place for authoritarian regimes" in the Mediterranean region, heaping more pressure on the embattled Syrian regime, in comments published Sunday.

Syrian National Council (SNC), an umbrella organization that claims to represent many Syrian rebel groups, is asking for international intervention in Syria.

Bunch of criminals wanting to lauch full military assault on indepentent country.

jleo

Not just gas and oil, but also control of food...via patented GMO seeds

From the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, OCA has been tracking the opportunities for Monsanto, a well-known war profiteer (Agent Orange, Vietnam), to take advantage of the current occupations. These include pushing glyphosate (Monsanto's Roundup herbicide) for poppy eradication in Afghanistan and opening the Iraqi market to the patenting of plants and seeds while preventing farmers from saving registered seed varieties. +++++ According to a 2004 USAID Transition Plan for the Agriculture Sector in Iraq, "All the major international players in the pesticide field are now present in Iraq: Dow (USA), Syngenta (Swiss), Dupont (USA), Bayer (Germany), Monsanto (USA), Novartis, FMC (USA), Dupont and Uniroyal, BSF and Cynamide."

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18999.cfm

http://www.alternet.org/story/62273/why_iraqi_farmers_might_prefer_death_to_paul_bremer's_order_81/

inviev

@ Mihuel "Because they have there their particular interests."

Some food for thought. Their interests? Gas and Oil. Cyprus, Greece and Turkey have invited companies to explore the possibility of Gas and Oil in undersea fields in East Mediterranean. A broken and puppet country in the immediate region is of great help to the corporations and a pressure tool for the Cyprus, Greece and Turkey. Wait. Greece and Cyprus are already broken. Oh, so convenient.

Mihuel

@ Vitaliy_Kiselev "Same can be said for many countries of the world " Of course! But not all countries are as attractive as Syria for international finance. After that, in these countries there is a strong central government. See-your country. Not all are as a strategic place as Syria. Everyone is now focused on Syria, but no one remembers what happens in the Republic of Congo. Why do countries such as the USA, Russia and China have such a strong opinion on Syria? Because they have there their particular interests.

Mihuel

@igorek7 Wow !

Vitaliy_Kiselev

There is no such thing as a nation of Syria. If you run out of Assad in Syria will be the same as in Libya.

Same can be said about many countries in the world.

Mihuel

@Vitaliy_Kiselev You did not understand me or my English is so poor that it is difficult to understand. My point is this: The fall of Assad is not a solution for peace in Syria since no one has an idea how to keep it out of the country in unity. Syria is an artificial creation designed by the UK and France. There is no such thing as a nation of Syria. If you run out of Assad in Syria will be the same as in Libya.

gameb

Since 3 days I don’t read news anymore. Only read sports. Makes me vomit of sadness. Same ridiculous dumb procedure as in Iraq. Same world wide media fuckers preparing since more then 1 year chemical bullshit lie pretext to commit another crime against humanity in their long evil history. A primitive setup. Guantanamo, Afghanistan, Drones, NSA etc etc and now Syria. Obama is the worst thing ever. The situation is extremly dangerous in terms of a serious international conflict.

kurth

..yep...Henri's one of the NW-orderers for sure. The zionist dream has always been the re-establishment of the mythical Israeli nation. Obviously divide and destroy is their plan. But if you want a list of the real criminals , simply research PNAC and George Bush appointees after the 2000 coup. And as well, look to the corporate heads who benefited from Iraq's invasion. Halliburton and the Carlyle Group...and their bankster brotherhood, the Rothschild's and Goldman Sacks -the-people.

The 2000 election was a coup...because the blackmailed Supreme Court ( see Russell Tice) should have never decided a contested Presidential election. The US Constitution plainly calls for that task to be performed by the House of Representatives. When Bush was installed as the USA's now puppet dictator ....and all members of subsequent regimes part of the coup, Bush then proceeded to install PNAC players in key positions to capably carryout 9/11, which was the psyop designed to hoodwink America...turning it into Amerika !

And witness ...Israel has already given these same criminals oil exploration rights in the disputed Golan Heights....which is part of Syria btw !

http://presstv.com/detail/2013/02/22/290340/israel-lets-genie-drill-for-oil-in-golan/

and who is Genie energy ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy

All of these criminals line up like a cast of the Usual Suspects !

igorek7

@sammy I feel sorry for the ordinary people of Syria, because none of the politicians actually care of what is happening & may happen with them.

@kurt I guess, you refer to Henry Kissinger: Balkanized and Broken-Up Syria “Best Possible Outcome”

kurth

@Haberdasher

I also await an answer to your question.

....I just told you !

Haberdasher

@ian_T... I also await an answer to your question.

kurth

Obviously they want to balkanize the region so Israel can slowly assimilate the then helpless broken states to establish a biblical Israeli nation running from the tigris euphrates to sinai . Or that's what the zionist think. They will be sacrificed in the end game when the rulers-of-the-world start wwIII finally forcing the muslim world , along with russia and maybe china as well, to unite against the corporatocracy threat. Ten days after 9/11 General Wesley Clark visited the pentagon and heard that 7 nations would be invaded and destroyed . Syria was on that list. This was/is the PNAC plan . That's why they couped the 2000 US elections. To install their criminals in power, and then pull off 9/11, which they needed to brainwashed the gringo herd. The criminals murder millions and people still don't see the obvious.

johnnymossville

5 years ago the USA hitched it's wagon to the Muslim Brotherhood, and is now actively arming Al Qaeda and it's affiliates. It seems to me the USA wants instability in that region of the world to continue business as usual. It's like some episode of the twilight zone.

sammy

@igorek7 In Syria we call it a "big pot of mess" .It is sad for me see my beautiful country suffer, very sad.Both sides to blame.We can not look at US only here, but also Russia and China and also shake my head, everyone wants a piece of the pie.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@igorek7

Amazing

igorek7

I hope, it may help for the discussion: A short guide to the Middle East

Vitaliy_Kiselev

It seems to me that if anyone wants to defend Assad should focus on the great diversity of Syria, which Assad regime through a single entity. The price of this unity was very high. Once again we must thank France and the UK for colonial politics. THANK YOU!

Hmm. So all this years they had absolutely no understanding of their country, and you had :-)

Btw, side you are supporting here won in Iraq. Check consequences.

Mihuel

" Isn't it interesting that population stopped liked "regime", right after big corporations decided so? " I understand your point of view, but this is a huge simplification. It seems to me that if anyone wants to defend Assad should focus on the great diversity of Syria, which Assad regime through a single entity. The price of this unity was very high. Once again we must thank France and the UK for colonial politics. THANK YOU!

Vitaliy_Kiselev

The invading radical islamist mercenaries would've had no chance against a unified and armed population, and the insurrection would've been put down in a matter of months, leaving Obama and his gang of warhawks no excuse to bomb it into rubble.

It is good idea to research the subject, and check the numbers of trained armed man that corporations US, UK, Turkey are constantly delivering to Sirya.

Granted, Assad has run an autocratic regime that much of the population did not like, but the alternative is coming soon, and it aint good for ordinary syrians

Isn't it interesting that population stopped liked "regime", right after big corporations decided so?

robertGL

@Mihuel clearly not enough syrians were concerned about their own country. The invading radical islamist mercenaries would've had no chance against a unified and armed population, and the insurrection would've been put down in a matter of months, leaving Obama and his gang of warhawks no excuse to bomb it into rubble. Granted, Assad has run an autocratic regime that much of the population did not like, but the alternative is coming soon, and it aint good for ordinary syrians

Mihuel

Have any of you been in Syria before the outbreak of "civil war"? I was. In Syria, it was the most educated people in the Middle East (except maybe Iran). I wonder whether this delectable owner of a cafe in Damascus, who studied in Prague, who knew several languages (Russian, English, Czech, Polish), if he's still alive? They all have their own interests in Syria: Russia, USA, Great Britain, France, China, Iran, Turkey, Al-Qaeda, but we all have in the ass lives of ordinary people. UN Security Council can not agree on Syria, that is to say that no one wants to end this holocaust. Look at how the present borders of Syria. Who has set them? The people of Syria? Or maybe the great European democracies? France, the United Kingdom, which have always cared about the interests of the people in their colonies (sarcasm)? Everyone wants to settle Hitler for his crimes? When the colonial powers to pay for the crimes committed against the people in their former colonies? Yes I know I'm naive, but I do not fuck with Peace, having loaded gun.

stip

I don't have TV and don't read news online - I'm not exposed to mass media since couple of month, I just heard about the (strategically idiotic) chemcial attack so I'm asking since many different views come together here.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

What I don't understand, why would Assad use c-weapons now, that's obviously the dumbest and most pointless move to make and I'm sure he can't be that stupid?

Just do not expose yourself to western mass media so much, and you won't have such questions :-) As all this thing won't be possible without prostitutes in mass media.

stip

Here we are, 2 years later - they'll finally attack "to punish" the use of chemical weapons, but not to drop Assad because they don't want opposition in power either. Kreml is not amused. What I don't understand, why would Assad use c-weapons now, that's obviously the dumbest and most pointless move to make and I'm sure he can't be that stupid?

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@brianluce

don't know why people are so eager to lump the entire middle east into one big pot and think a single (usually boneheaded) policy is all you need to advance western interests.

Like this words.
This is because people generally do not want to go into details, if they see same guys doing same criminal things with always the same result. Btw, this guys don't give a fuck about "economic disparity, resources, populations, geographies, ethnic divisions" in the end. They just kill as much as they can, and fuck evryone else.

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