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New Black Magic RAW Cameras: Pocket and S35 4k, general talk
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  • I love what they're trying to do, but there's people still waiting for their pre-ordered Jellocams, and now they're announcing cameras that will make them cancel their order and wait another year to find out they want to cancel that second order. If the 4K version goes M43, they might actually get my money. I small lightweight 4K RAW cam would be awesome, but not with a EOS mount, you'd think they'd learned their lesson the first time and went M43 so as to have the most versatility in the glass dept, and an easy PL solution with an adapter.

  • The pocket camera with panny 7-14 is perfect for drones, light and powerful. Will add one to my copter. Waiting some news on specs.

  • @peaceonearth

    Most fun if existing BMCC will slide to around $1999 with annoucment

  • cant believe that they are able to buy a 35mm 4k sensor and still realize a profit at this price point. It's also hard to imagine that they did realize gains with the 2,5k CC up to now.

  • How on earth can they announce a new cam when they haven't gotten out a fraction of the "old" one. How will they meet demand?

    So now they have 4 models and can't manufacture 1. It's absurd. I've been waiting since sept.

  • Let's see - either they get their shit together this time or ruin it completely.

    Yep. As it seems like they want to make cameras line, not to compete in price range directly with existing camera.

    It will be also important who makes sensors, if it is Sony or someone with enough capacity and expirience it must be much better now.

  • I'm finally jaded by cameras, I think. I won't be excited until there's a buy-it-now link on B&H.

  • Let's see - either they get their shit together this time or ruin it completely.

  • If this is real and they can ship these now and they work...damn!

  • They can barely handle getting one heavily flawed camera out to the public, now they're adding 2 more to the mix? I can see the big banners at NAB now, "Pre-order today, we'll get it you sometime between this summer and Star Wars: Episode 8....promise"

  • I can't believe it. I have been on the wait list for the BMCC MFT for six months now and here they go another two possibly jawdropping cams. They start to turn me into a fanboy without ever owning one. I got "appled".

  • sounds like christmas, eastern and birthday on one day, lets see if they make this happen and those babies work without major flaws. Still looking for a good alternative, thats good for run and gun stuff, has the stealth factor, but at least 4:2:2 and more than 8bit. I do not even consider upgrading in the 8bit segment anymore.

    The pocket cam looks awesome. What about the size of its sensor?

  • Wow. BM is grabbing the RAW niche big time. That S35 4K cam is one step away from being my idea of a "perfect camera". Alas, after all my joyous time spent with mirrorless systems and adapters, I positively despise the EF mount. Someone at NAB needs to give them flack for that (mostly because they listened to flack last time and gave us m4/3).

  • All my C-mount glass is gonna like this :)

  • So is the pocket cam's sensor smaller than BMCC?

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  • My mind was blown when I saw this. I mean the original Cinema Cam has MFT mount but it's passive. This is active which makes me uncontrollably happy. It's just too much for my tiny brain to take in

  • My god, this had better not be a hoax.

  • The pocket cam is what the T2i was a couple of years ago. Every single hipster on a street corner is gonna pack these. Love it!

  • After 5 years of disappointment with every camera release I want to believe!

  • Yeah but 25ms jello is so 2008 too. Ideally it would have an E or M mount so you could shoot full frame with a speedbooster.

  • @squig, I believe that a 4K model shouldn't really have any Moire issues. It's not being downsampled like going to HD or even 2.5K right? I could be wrong, but I thought much of the problem was going from higher resolution down to smaller resolution.

  • @squig bmcc v1 mft + metabones speed booster?

  • I know they stumbled on the roll-out with the first camera, but hopefully they've learned some lessons in the process. I'd say they had to pull this move to keep ahead of the game. For anyone who has had their BMC for awhile, the usual arguments still rule, these new models do not invalidate their camera, in fact less so than in many cases with other companies. Anyone on preorder will have to think, and the forum hype will be about the new cams, but it seems there is still kind of a niche for the 2.5k model, in my opinion, especially if they add compressed raw or a feature or two.

  • The one concern I have (other than being trampled trying to get hold of one) is it gonna have an OLPF? Moire is so 2008. I would have preferred a 2.5k S35 camera.

  • I passed on the 2.5K jellocam. I said to wait, but this was more than I could have hoped for. Also unless BMD offers a RED like buyback program there's gonna be some pissed off 2.5K jellocam owners.

    Now, it'll still be a year before they get the fucking things to market if the 1st GEN version is any indication.

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