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Black Magic: Official $1,995 raw cinema camera topic, series 2
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  • yeah that's very nice

  • @HenryO thanks for posting that is by far the best Blackmagic footage I've seen so far Wow!!!! that's just insane.. the amount of detail is out of this world.

  • What a superb example of what this camera is capable of. Download the full HD version

    http://vimeo.com/groups/blackmagicuser/videos/66164396

  • It's good to know BM is progressing, but they really need to sort out their audio problems and get meters. Also, Robert is awesome.

  • Yes, you can read about the Canon 85/1.2 on the bmcuser forum.

    Regarding Resolve: rather conform your framerate in another program for now, it is accepting different framerates, but dealing with them by the most primitve method. Version 10 will have optical flow, though, I suppose they'll work on better audio sync too.

  • @andyharris

    However I have a EF 85mm f1.2 MkII lens. When attached to the BMCC and set to manual focus the focus ring will not engage -- which is extra double sad. I expect that the BMCC is not raising the right signal on the lens interface to allow this to happen.

    Interesting -- I rented a BMCC last weekend, with a set of three Canon L-series primes. The 35mm and 50mm worked just fine, but the 85mm wouldn't focus at all. I wonder if this is a known issue?

  • @sicovdplas --- Yes I have had the strobing. I changed my shutter to a value lower than 180deg and strobing was gone. To be fair you can see the strobing on the screen whilst previewing.

    @johnbrawley --- Double thanks for the comments. I lost 4 clips, although this was during the first day I had the camera. Took it to a wedding and it locked out after 10GB of disk use. I found that there were errors on the partition using MacOSX disk utility (only on the partition, the disk was good). On repair of the partition I carried the camera around pressing record as many times as I could until the battery died -- no problems. Have subsequently used the camera on a job --- all fine.

    However I have a EF 85mm f1.2 MkII lens. When attached to the BMCC and set to manual focus the focus ring will not engage -- which is extra double sad. I expect that the BMCC is not raising the right signal on the lens interface to allow this to happen.

    Currently I do not understand how to conform video of differing frame rates and keep audio sync in Resolve. I'm just create a project per frame rate at the moment. Called BMCC tech support who were very pleasant - but they didn't know either. I hope to get a masterclass on Resolve from Anthony Bert at some point.

    I think I'm going to love/hate this camera in equal measure!

  • Is anyone experiecing strobing on the BMC? I've always shot handheld with the GH2 and never had problems with faster pans an strobing but on the BMC it is noticable present.

  • I didn't make this, looks like a majority was shot with BMCC and I'm guessing a few clips with a MKII.

  • @fetzu - you've just made my day!

  • That shouldn't be happening.

    Using any of those functions won't stop the camera from recording.

    They all work while recording. Perhaps try a firmware update cycle to see if that resets it. Are you recording RAW ?

    JB.

  • Ok, so my BMCC has turned up. I think it has some weird usability problems. Could any other owner confirm any of these:

    • If you double tap for focus assist you can press record and the timers will start, however no files will be created on the SSD.
    • If you press the focus button and press record, again the timers will start and there will be no files on the SSD
    • if you press record then stop, the timers start and no files are created.

    So if the camera is in the right state (no focus no double tap) you press record ..... make a take then press record again --- all will be well.

    I can't find where it declares the firmware version on the menu, but I'll persevere ...

  • Got this answer form Blackmagic:

    [..]
    The Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT camera body has now started shipping in small quantities. Whilst I cannot give you a specific timeframe of how long an order would take to reach you, I can say that production should be steadily increased in the coming weeks.
    [..]
  • Seems like Andorama has filled the EF pre-orders and even has some cameras in stock. Now would be a great time to start shipping the MFT version, they've tried our patience enough.

    I e-mailed both andorama and BM about MFT availability, and I know I ain't getting a clear answer from neither.. but hey, it's still worth a shot.

  • @danyyyel Not to anything posted in this forum. Rather, it's a nice statement of recognizing that even exciting technology like the BMCC has its issues, and that a true professional will recognize that and work around them, rather than whining.

    I personally can't wait to get my BMCC MFT with Metabones adaptor.

  • @ahbleza it is in reference to what?

  • Shows just how different the BMCC and 5DmkIII are when you use the BMCC for what it's worth:

  • I found this on the BlackMagic forum, and thought it was so good I had to steal it. Thanks, Tom!

    "Dear Blackmagic design,

    When I eventually get my camera, I won't shoot with no light and complain about sensor artefacts, I won't purchase an unsupported SSD and complain about dropped frames, I won't complain that the camera is too heavy, or too light, I won't do whip pans and complain about rolling shutter, I won't blame the motion cadence of 24p as being a defect with the camera, I won't film in RAW mode and then complain about it eating up hard drive space, I won't resell my camera with a $1000 mark up, I won't ignore all the expert advice on how best to expose the camera and instead post a comment about the noise performance on an underexposed shot, I won't compare this camera to one which costs more than 10x the price and neglect to consider that perhaps any difference between the cameras is inherently linked to the price difference, I won't push the footage 5 stops above iso 1600 and complain about hot pixels, I won't use a dirt cheap SSD dock and wonder why my footage is getting corrupt in the transfer, I won't complain that the tiny built in reference mic doesn't record DTS 7.1 HD because sound is so important to me - but not so important that I would ever have a dedicated sound recordist on a shoot, I won't complain that even though it can do 30fps raw frames with 13-stops of dynamic range for $3000 - it cant do it at 120fps because it has to adhere to the laws of physics and thermal dissipation, I won't complain that it comes with some free software which previously cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and it might be beneficial to me to perhaps learn some new software of which there are tones of support material online as well as it being fairly intuitive anyway.......

    I just want to film some beautiful video with all the advantages this camera has to offer."

  • imgur.com/kW1yVtt.jpeg

    review looked fantastic on my macbook, when I watched it on me 40inch LCD via HDMI I got this weird cris-crossing diagram on a lot of the shots in pb's cat video.

  • His jacket shows very noticeable compression noise. Seriously, a VIMEO stream is hardly an indictment. Plus, he's shooting ProRes here. Everything about this is showing, essentially, a worst-case-scenario.

  • It is not as bad as 5d Mk II but worse than GH2.

    I am quite sure he worked on it in the post and ooc it is really bad and a bigger problem than RS

    @Aria. I see all colors in the bright part of his grey jacket

  • @peaceonearth, i'm not sure that what you're seeing is Moire. It looks like compression artifacts and a tiny bit of noise to me. In particular on the right shoulder which has less light. The BMCC has so much sharpness I think it's a perfect match for softer lenses to give a nice cinematic look and that should tame down any Moire.

  • In the begging he states he is filming on the BMCC. That's what he's not holding it.