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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • kholikholi

    @nomad - IN my experience the Rolling Shutter ("Jello") has been no worse than the GH2 or MK3. Not sure why anyone would consider it any different than either of those cameras.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Please use proper topic for speed booster talks

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5770/metabones-lens-speed-booster-adapter-focal-reducer#Item_290

  • Ralph_BRalph_B

    @Ian_T

    It makes perfect sense. The speedbooster works by shrinking the cone of light coming from the lens. Fine detail gets squashed together, and resolution actually increases. For example, say you have a 50mm lens that resolves 60 lines per millimeter. If you use the speedbooster, that lens becomes a 35mm. The picture is smaller. So those 60 lines are now 0.7mm wide. One millimeter now holds 86 lines. Resolution has increased.

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    Metabones has announced that the m4/3 Speed Boosters are delayed. Passive Speed boosters, such as from r Leica and G Nikon, will arrive late this year. An active EF mount is not scheduled until some time in 2014.

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    Blackmagic CEO Grant Petty explains it all.. & go to 3:11 - 7:14 minutes to see a quick look of the BMPCC DOF. It has some real nice DOF in my opinion I'm excited about what I'm seeing, let me know what you think.

  • SangyeSangye

    The notion that adding elements degrades image quality is absolute nonsense. Compare the internal glass element configuration of primitive lenses with modern ultra-sharp lenses, and try to tell me that. With certain filters, wide angle adapters, and other front-element attachments that may be true, but the SpeedBooster behaves more like an internal element than anything else. It's widely accepted that the Speedbooster improves image quality for most lenses, unless they are overly soft around the edges.

  • sshssh

    @blofeld @nomad See it in action here

  • stoneystoney

    If BMPCC is released on time, if Speed Booster adapter is released on time, if I can get them delivered to my door before I lose my temper, if my lens works on on the adapter, if my BMPCC works fine without major breakdown and without a monstrous rig, if my editor/hardware are fast enough to edit/render RAW footage, if my final artifact is a way better than what I can get from Gh1/2/3, I will be happy. No I'm not an early adopter. So no preorder for me. Easy.

  • Ian_TIan_T

    @ghkqn Huh? Have you seen any of the tests done so far? The images coming from the Speedbooster is certainly as sharp as the original (no apparent degradation), much wider and is a lot brighter at the same f-stop. Sure….it’s common knowledge that adding more elements like that should degrade the image and I know it does not make any sense but you have to see it to believe it.

  • ghkqnghkqn

    With the same optics, it will not be sharper with any Speedbooster in between. Adding optical converters, aka lens elements, always degrade optical performance and likely will add lens flare. of all the converters out there, I mean tele and wide, only a few of the Nikon with ED glasses do not degrade much the lens it is attached to. Speedbooster claims that it improves MFT, provides 1 stop better. I am dubious about koolaid overcoming laws of physics. It is like saying I get a better throughput with a bigger pipe adapter when the original pipe I fitted to is already small.

  • eyeiayeeyeiaye

    Will this cam be sharper than the 5diii with its new clean hdmi out?

  • nomadnomad

    RS is pretty similar for BMCC and GH-2 (I tested them). Expect a bit better from the Pocket, since it has fewer photocells to read – if the electronics is not too strapped down to read the sensor slower than BMCC…

  • blofeldblofeld

    Would be interesting to see a rolling shutter comparison between gh2 & cropped bmcc...

  • MysteryMystery

    Speed booster problems

    Maybe need it own thread.

    But what is reported performance of different speed boosters, in resolution, warping, chroma aberrations ...

    Probably macro lens like old Canon video camera to slr kens adaptor. But issue, you had to use at least good triplet lens to compensate for aberrations to red green blue made by interface on each lens, each lens is tuned to correct aberration of previous lens to clean image. Single and double produce issues.

    Which speed boosters has at least triplets and produce clean results to be used on pocket.

  • MysteryMystery

    1.5:1 compression on Bayer is rather poor. On clean image you achieve up to 4:1 on video years ago. With cineform 4:1 was basically lossless on bayer. Bayer much more compressible. They state a range 1.2-1.5:1.

    Reason, likely maxing out on board processor limiting to simple compression technique. Almost achieved simply with compression of inter frame comparison on a clean image. Would they do it?

  • AriaAria

    I'm so happy about the BMPC cuz I was trying to decide which DSLR would give me the most DR and Detail and now I don't have to worry about that cuz there's a camera designed specifically to give that and it will work with the SAME MFT lenses for the GH line!!! I couldn't be happier. All small and i'll be able to shoot just about anywhere and not draw attention to myself!!! Damn exciting to be honest. I can hide a BMPC behind the Priest during weddings too. I was thinking of doing that with a HD Hero, but now I can do that with a BMPC.

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    Guy's very important a quote from John Brawley about the BMPCC "The pocket has a smaller version of the same sensor in the bmcc. The 4k is a new sensor, mainly because it was the best option for 4k super 35 size"
    From that one statement it is sure that the images coming out of the Pocket Cinema Camera will be very very simular to that of the BMC, don't need to hear anything else this little cam will be a beast..

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    @Kholi you are the man kholi soo excited can't wait keep us updated on things.

  • kholikholi

    @apefos

    Add a 5.9/T1.8, an 8/T2.4 and a 10-100/T2 zoom to that. =] I'll try to shoot footage with them all and label the shots, and also with SLR 12 and 25 HyperPrime.

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    @kholi Nice!!! can't wait to see the results..

  • apefosapefos

    what a nice s16 lens set (9.5, 12, 16, 25, 50):

    HS_Zeiss_Mk_II_S16mm_st5sm.jpg
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  • stipstip

    @kholi awesome, looking forward to see the Superspeeds on the BMC, thanks!

  • kholikholi

    @TrackZillas --

    I just picked up the Super16mm Zeiss Superspeed lenses thanks to my friends over at Blacklist...

    Between today and Saturday I'm going to shoot a lot of S16, crop it to the proper aspect ratio or close to the PocketCam and post a ProRes422HQ of what I've shot after color work. It WILL not be for the purpose of showing compression etc. just FOV/DOF equivalent to what the PocketCam would do, and likely the overall "look" from Blackmagic.

    Strapping on the Hot Rod PL mount and Super 16s now to measure out the frame size.

    @apefos @Ian-T

    Thanks guys, Ian I meant to respond to you on VImeo, will get to it in a bit. Been running around since Vegas. >.<

  • TrackZillasTrackZillas

    Other sample footage of the BMC from @Kholi

    the BMC shines bigtime & the pocket camera from what kholi said looks very simular to the BMC..

  • SangyeSangye

    Looking at that low-light test with the BMCC, where these sensors really seem to shine is in medium to well-lit situations. I'm not sure if it's just Vimeo compression, but the shadows look almost as muddy as what I'm accustomed to seeing on a GH2. The highlight roll-off is sublime, though.

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