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1280x800 IPS 7" NEWAY CL76HO-X and CL76SDI monitors, amazing
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  • @joeevento:

    Hmm. Is that the "CL76HO-X"? Not very promising all in all. =/ ... I planned to get one soon. (Since the Lilliput 663/O/P got more expensive here in europe.) No chance to get a replacement? (From Neway directly.) Because that are major problems / material errors. Btw.: The red "shimmering" from the side is normal (with IPS screens). But the backlight bleeding - which you can see in the 4th picture for example - is a panel / backlight fault. Because normaly you get a VERY small edge or corner highlighting - but not such huge clouding which is affecting the picture.

    Lg, Tscheckoff

  • The bleeding is normal. All ips monitors have that. The other problem, well that sucks.

  • Hello, today the monitor arrived but it has two problems. Com hdmi display with the gh2 and the Panasonic hmc 151, has only two colors! Any key funzioneuso after I made my exit from this always in two colors. I have done several times reset but no result! Then I tried to use it as a second monitor on the notebook and the vision is perfect! Does anyone have an answer? Second problem: As you can see from the photo 4When the image is black you see some reflections of light on the right of the monitor that disturb the image.

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  • I just ordered one! I hope it arrives soon!

  • CL76HO-X since today comes with updated IPS panel. Same quality and colors, just better, 600nit brightness.

  • They'll be sending me a new switch. No need to replace the whole unit for a cheap component that takes a few minutes to replace.

  • On the other hand your battery might just be dead :)

  • I got my monitor and love it, deal of the century!

    I'm using a 975 battery as thats the plate it came with. However I'm having trouble finding a charger for it, so far I have bought 2 off amazon that claim to fit 975s but dont!

    anyone know where I could find the charger? Thanks!

  • For sure, if using a rig, positioning the battery behind the shoulder is the ideal. I am using a massive Anton Bauer to power camera, monitor and audio recorder, and also to balance the rig perfectly on my shoulder. You could do something very similar with 2 or 3 FP-970s, plus a weight of some sort. Having a rig that is heavy on the hands is not a clever way to operate. A balanced rig, with all the weight on the shoulder is not tiring and leads to better camera work. Ask any pro operator with a shouldercam.

  • There is a lot of talk on here about getting FP-970 batteries. That's a bit nuts. This monitor doesn't eat that much power. You're better off getting two smaller batteries and saving some weight. It's a lot to ask of the hotshoe mount and up top of your camera is the worst place for weight. Had I known just how big 970 batteries were when I mail ordered them I would have gone smaller. Even if I had a rig (working on it) I'd rather have the weight on the back rather than up front. There is very little reason to get a huge battery in my opinion, especailly when you consider how long camera batteries last.

  • I got my monitor a few months ago and love it. I do have one thing to mention as a warning however:

    I got an FP-970 battery and popped it into the battery plate that comes with the monitor. It went a bit hard, but I got it in. (note: the battery easily fit into my charger with another brands swappable battery plates). When I removed the battery it's metal connects came out with it. The battery is a true Sony one and it fits quite easily into my charger (which is a random Chinese made one with interchangeable battery plates). When I looked at the metal connect on the Monitors battery play I notices they were about .4mm wider than is usual. I ended up using super glue to lock the connect back inside the battery (no idea if this is a fire risk).

    Long story short. Check your connector plat before inserting your first battery and is possible find an alternate connector plat for the monitor.

    Aside from this the Monitor is great. I'm very happy I got it.

  • @ericsf Well, I don't think it's a Sony as there's no branding on the battery but I'm confident it's a high quality generic repacement. It was sold as part of a power pack from one of the city's main photography stores which I picked up second hand from some dude. Given the stated power requirements of the monitor, the amount of time the battery lasted seemed spot on. Contrast that with one of the P-V members who mentions in an earlier post that he bought a knock-off supposedly rated at 7200maH but that barely lasted 2 hours...

    On that note I just ordered 2 Sony F770 from bhphoto. At $60 a pop I think it's a very good deal and should handle a days worth of principle-photography; you figure on a 12-15hrs shoot your monitor will probably be turned on around 2/3 of the time.

    What makes me curious is whether the camera consumes less power when a monitor is plugged in and the LCD is turned off.

  • @spacewig & @Vitaliy_Kiselev,

    My monitor just arrived today! Yeah I have some 970 batteries and they are big. Might even weigh a bit more than the monitor itself. spacewig, is the F570 (2200 maH) you're using sony or generic brand. The sony ones usually last longer than the generics, right? I'm trying to find the right balance btwn power, weight, number of batteries, and cost for a full day shoot. Thoughts?

  • I am using 970 batteries, but I hope to soon buy a big Anton Bauer to put at the back of my rig, behind the shoulder, to balance it out and take the weight off my hands. The advantage is it can run monitor, camera, sound recorder for 12 hours without pause, and also balance the shoulder rig perfectly.

  • Agreed. Two should more than cover a typical 12 hour shoot.

  • @spacewig

    Yep, and 770 is better fit than too large 950/970 batteries.

  • In case anyone's interested: The F570 (2200 maH) battery will power this monitor for 2hr11m of continuous use (I timed this myself) which means the F770 - on sale for $60 at bhphoto until the end of April - should give you roughly 4.5 hours of use.

  • REVIEW

    So, I got my monitor today. After I managed to change the system language to English, I gave it a good old explore, and I'm very happy indeed.

    One of the first things I did was calibrate it to a set of SMPTE colour bars, fed from my computer. Almost nothing needed adjusting at all. The 1-99 settings for colour, contrast, brightness, tint etc. were all bang on at 50, the factory setting. The colour is more accurate than my Marshall 7" V70 HDMI

    The sharpness is absolutely exceptional. More than 720p in such a small monitor leaves no ambiguity as to sharpness when focussing. It makes the need for pixel to pixel and focus assist a bit redundant, in my opinion, but they are there, nonetheless, and actually I guess pixel to pixel is quite handy for short dof situations in 1080p.

    The monitor is very light compared with my Marshall. It balances better on my rig. Having 1/4"-20 nuts on all four edges also really helps me fit the monitor on my rig properly.

    The false colour is excellent and includes an on-screen colour guide, without which I always found false colour a bit useless in the past. With the guide it is very handy for consistency.

    The knobs on the front actually don't seem to control anything. These settings are made in the menus in fact, and the knobs don't seem connected, which I actually prefer, because in my opinion, they are not something that needs constant tinkering - they should be calibrated and then left well alone IMHO.

    The four function buttons are really handy. I have mine set to FALSE COLOUR, FOCUS ASSIST, PIXEL to PIXEL and DSLR framing, for when a friend uses his 5D with it, but I use it on my GH2s.

    The frame guides could be more comprehensive, in my view. I'd like to see horizontal lines for a 1:1.85 crop and a 1:2.4 in post, for example. No big deal though.

    The power supply is pretty poor, with a very short (1 metre?) lead, but presumably you'd be wanting to battery power this guy, either with Sony NP-F960/970 type batteries on the supplied battery holder, or from a V-lock or Anton Bauer. Power in is very versatile though, with a 4 pin XLR and a little barrel power input, both taking a range of voltages.

    The monitor hood is good, and comes with velcro sewn on it, and a strip of velcro for the monitor, but I have very poor personal experience with velcro on monitor hoods and won't be using it. Fortunately they also suppled it with 3 holes to correspond to the side and top 1/4"-20 fixing holes, so if you get 3 thumb-screws, you're laughing! It's quite rigid and will stay on my monitor the whole time, as it protects the screen well, and is useful a lot of the time.

    The monitor comes with a nice quality soft neoprene case, a nice quality hotshoe mount, and a well produced manual with pictures and clear instructions on all of the features.

    I paid £256 plus £25 Import VAT, and for that, this is a bargain. This is also sold as an Ikan VX7, and it is in my view better in every way than an equivalent Marshall V70 at twice the price and perhaps nearly as good as the SmallHD AC7 LED (very similar actually).

    Highly recommended! No regrets so far.

  • @Joshua_Cadmium

    There's always cheaper, but if you can find a monitor with the same spec as the Neway for less, that would be relevant. The Neway seems to be Marshall/ SmallHD quality for much less. I agree that it is possible that they are the same panel, but only possible, and even the new SmallHD AC7 may be the same panel, as the spec is the same too. However, the electronics behind the panel are just as important, and not just for fancy features like false colour and peaking. Basic things like colour accuracy are determined by the ability to calibrate a monitor, which requires features like blue shift. These cheaper monitors may be great for focus and framing, which of course are fundamentally what we use a monitor for, but they're not quite the real deal for pro video, in my view.

  • @Joshua_Cadmium

    It is better monitor compared to Lilliput. And no they do not use "same panel", just resolution is the same.

    Also Lilliput is not cheaper in it's advanced version that can be compared to Neway.

  • Does anyone know how this compares to the new Lilliput 7" ? It looks like they're both using the same panels. Also, it looks like the Lilliput is available for about $100 cheaper if you don't need peaking or HDMI out

  • I'll let you know later this week, as I sold my identical Marshall (except without pass through HDMI - only one socket) so that I could buy this Neway HDMI for £100 less than my second hand Marshall went for.

    I am expecting pretty much the same feature set with considerably higher resolution, false colour guide at the footer of the false colour image (handy!), tally lights (I won't use them), 2xHDMI slots (potentially useful) and similar build quality.

    My Marshall was calibrated meticulously, but I never managed to achieve an accurate vibrant purple on the colour bars for some reason, so hopefully that will be better with this monitor.

    The only downside I see is the resale value should I ever need to part with it. A Marshall is easy to sell, Neway...we'll see. :) I hope that despite the unknown brand, this could be much better than the old marshall.

  • I have the MARSHALL V-LCD70XHB-HDMIPT monitor. Any idea how it compares? I'm thinking about selling the marshall. Thanks!

  • Well that was easy. Thanks for the link manstok. I just followed the menu in the link you gave and changed it in about 2 minutes. This was truly an incredible deal.

  • @truenorth language switching is very easy, didn't you get the info sheet (piece of paper)? It is described there