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Black Magic: Official $1,995 raw cinema camera topic, series 2
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  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    @wilbo

    did you try the technique or no?

    and what does cineform have to do with any of it?

  • WilboWilbo

    @GravitateMediaGroup If there was a way to automate uprez and 4k compression with cineform raw, the BMCC would conveniently be future-proof :)

  • mmkmmk

    BUMP for any word at IBC for active m43??

  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    simple upres technique

    follow the photoshop steps in this video

    with a RAW bmcc clip and upres to 3840x2160, export to tiff, open in resolve or other, export to 3840x2160. And like magic...you have a 1gig per 3sec. 4K clip lol

  • spacewigspacewig

    Thanks for your answers.

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @spacewig @ahbleza Yes, I tried same. Ditto.

  • ahblezaahbleza

    @spacewig I've tried electronic iris MFT lenses on the BMCC passive mount MFT. It may be true that aperture can be set and will stay in place, but focus doesn't work, so there's no point.

  • spacewigspacewig

    Question then: How does one use a lens whose iris is controlled electronically? Or is that even possible?

    I've read somewhere that you can set the lens's aperture on a GH2 (or other MFT camera) then remove it and it will retain the blades in the position it was last set to. Can you confirm this?

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    I do

  • spacewigspacewig

    Does anyone own the passive MFT version?

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @vicharris

    24mm Rokinon and call it a day. The out of focus areas and corners of the speedbooster draw attention pretty bad. It's really easy to notice in daytime shots.

    @Brian202020

    You just need to use the right glass with it and use it when it makes sense to use it. The Rokinon 35mm is the right glass. The Speed Booster is a really nice tool to have.

    Hmmm... Both good things to think about. Thanks for the input and replies. The 24mm does seem like the best way to go... but... is there really an actual perspective difference (besides the FOV) in anyone's observations? Is it really true the the 35mm/Speed-booster will be "deeper" and more "three-dimensional"... in terms of subject-background perspective? Or is that such stuff all a myth?

  • rockroadpixrockroadpix

    @belfryman - Pardon me, I was mistaken, I forgot to add that it will work with 25fps, as well.

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @Brian202020 Cool. Well one on the way, figured if I got the 17-55 Nikon - which is supposed to be jolly good - and speedbooster I've got a kind of sigma 18-35 1.8 when i want it only starting a good bit wider and then going longer at 2.8 when i want that end! As long as it works!

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    @belfryman

    I have no experiance with that lens unfortunatly. Maybe try to find a Ken Rockwell review to look at that lenses characteristics. Look at it this way the sharper the lens the better the results. If the lens has softer edges this problem basically gets magnified and the edges get even softer with the Speed Booster. The smaller sensor size of the BMCC reduces it a little tho. If I had a APS-C camera I would not buy a Speed Booster unless it was super cheap. With the Blackmagic it's great with sharp lenses. Like I said it's a good tool to have for BMCC owners.

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @rockroadpix read that it's compatible after the 1.3 firmware update so my fingers are crossed!

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @Brian202020 whoops, see above!

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @vicharris sorry meant that for @brian202020 I've just bought a speed booster and a nikon 17-55 2.8, do you think this is a good combination cos this layout is killing me! And I need a new mac to run Resolve! Didn't quite budget this one right! That $1k off destroyed my reasoning/predictive faculties!

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @vicharris I've just bought a speed booster and a nikon 17-55 2.8, do you think this is a good combination cos this layout is killing me! And I need a new mac to run Resolve! Didn't quite budget this one right! That $1k off destroyed my reasoning/predictive faculties!

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    @vicharris

    I use the Nikon to MFT Speed Booster almost everyday and the drawbacks aren't really as bad as you are making them out to be. On a APS-C sensor or even the GH2 it can get a little soft on the edges, but on the BMCC the edges are barely soft if you have a sharp lens. Captian Hook used an old Nikon 50mm f1.4 from the 60's. That lens is already soft on the edges at fast f-stops. I'm not saying you are wrong, the Speed Booster isn't perfect. You just need to use the right glass with it and use it when it makes sense to use it. The Rokinon 35mm is the right glass. The Speed Booster is a really nice tool to have.

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @rockroadpix Thank you. Have ordered it having read a couple of people saying it was now compatible. But I'll be shooting 24 or 25. Oh bums.

  • rockroadpixrockroadpix

    Did a little more testing today on a shoot. Loving the results. Not the sharpest shot, but the talent was a head bobber...

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The Blackmagic Cinema Camera's image quality is simply amazing. If you've been shooting video / cinema with any other camera (DSLR or camcorder) that costs less than $20,000, you won't believe how good the BMCC is. And when you add the fact that either the EF or MFT version now costs under $2,000 and you get the full version of DaVinci Resolve that retails for $1,000 included, it's nothing less than a steal.

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/camcorders/bmcc_first_impressions.shtml

  • rockroadpixrockroadpix

    @belfryman - I have the cineroid metal SDI and it only works when shooting 29.97 with overlays turned off. That is the only way that I have found you can get 1080i out of the sdi.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    24mm Rokinon and call it a day. The out of focus areas and corners of the speedbooster draw attention pretty bad. It's really easy to notice in daytime shots. I wanted one so bad but every time I see daytime footage from the SB, my eyes are drawn to the weird, smeared bokah. Just don't want something else to deal with. You can see it really easy in Captain Hooks footage from his newest shoot.

    That promo I just posted was shot with all Rokinon Cine glass. 75% or more was shot with the 24mm and 85mm. The 85mm is frigging awesome on it! Easy to tell which is which. There's your proof right there instead of us writing some stupid opinions here :)

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    FoV will be close. The Speed Booster image will be slightly different tho. The bonuses of the Speed Booster are is it will add a stop, make the lens sharper, and reduce the CA. The negatives are slightly softer edges at faster f-stops (in my opinion barely noticeable) and Andrew Reid from EOSHD noticed a blue fringe on highlights at faster f-stops (I have't really seen this yet).

    Andrew has a good write up on the Speed Booster.

    http://www.eoshd.com/content/11041/metabones-speed-booster-for-micro-four-thirds-review

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