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AN "Valkyrie", GOLGOP3-13, GOP3ZILLA, natural, Freeze-less Reliable All-round GOP3 Settings :-)
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  • I release "GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA3", "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA4", "GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA4", "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA6" and "GOP3ZILLA_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA2" settings.

    In these, some of the GOP tables are same experimentally. These are the almostly same settings except Q value and matrix.

    Special thanks to @driftwood! :-)

    Please try them!

    Personally, I prefer "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA6", "GOP3ZILLA_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA2" and "GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA4". It is because the codec does not waver in any scenes and the level lines of the high qp macroblocks do not appear with those settings.

    Especially "GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA3" is suitable for lowlight.

    Although the codec with "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA4" cannot waver easily, behavior unlike GOLGOP3-13 series is carried out except under the lowlight.

    *Already combined with @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"

    NOTE:

    *Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.

    *24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with mega size I-frame.

    *In GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C, 24p80%(30p) is available in only 24L.

    *In camera playback is available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available after reboot the camera.(Not tested yet, but probably)

    *EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)

    *Spanning in 24H, 24L and SH with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In other mode, need test.

    *Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.

    bkmcwd GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA3.zip
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    bkmcwd GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA4.zip
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    bkmcwd GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA4.zip
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    bkmcwd GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA6.zip
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    bkmcwd GOP3ZILLA_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA2.zip
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  • now to test your new golgop3 with sedna vs canis majoris!!

  • @liquidify

    Thanks! It is very interesting. Please give me feedback also to me. It is compared with the great setting of Nick after a long time. :-)

  • @bkmcwd I saw the attached report of streamparser.

    So, the differences between the settings with and without Sedna are QP value and B-frame size? Sedna has bigger QP & B-frame size than the other.

    What does it mean?

    Bigger B frame size in the motion like your floating sample seems to be good, but generally Lower QP is desirble.

    Which is better? Is it the choice of kind of the user's liking?

  • @bkmcwd, Thanks for your new settings!

    Since the weather is not good, I tried long time recording in the room. The subject is my dirty jeans, and SD card is SANDISK Extreme Pro SDXC 64GB.

    HBR spanned 4 times and stopped (4GB+4GB+4GB+4GB+4GB, recording time is about 43 minutes, bitrate about 65Mbps)

    FSH spanned 1 time and stopped (4GB+4GB, recording time is about 17 minutes, bitrate about 66Mbps)

    SH spanned 4 times and I stopped manually (4GB+4GB+4GB+4GB+3.1GB, recording time is 60 minutes, bitrate about 44Mbps)

    *"GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA3", iso3200, F5.6, SS1/60, NOS(-2,0,0-2)

  • @soru

    "Sedna has bigger QP & B-frame size than the other."

    Yes, this is the feature of the Sedna version as a result. Since according to the guess which I heard from @Stray it subdivides more finely and the codec is processing the picture, the B frame is whether do become large and qp also becomes high. Although I do not understand truth well, the grain noises will be felt finer if I actually look at the picture.

    "Bigger B frame size in the motion like your floating sample seems to be good, but generally Lower QP is desirble."

    I do not think that the B frame of GOP3ZILLA_StockMatrix is small. Even if I look at other samples, sufficient size required for the scene is secured. I do not say that a difference comes out in motion, but consider that the difference has only appeared in the size of the B frame as a result of the difference in the processing described above.

    "Which is better? Is it the choice of kind of the user's liking?"

    Of course, it is based on your liking. Although this is based on my subjectivity to the last, is GOP3ZILLA_StockMatrix the highest if it is the purpose to obtain the highest feeling of resolving also in what kind of scene?

    On the other hand, probably, the Sedna version of GOLGOP3-13 or GOP3ZILLA is suitable for those who want to use a Sedna matrix more effectively with bigger frame size than Intra settings.

  • @har_k

    Many thanks for feedbacks always, mate! :-)

    If positive span is required in FSH, is it necessary to tweak the setting more?

  • @bkmcwd I also read pm. And, I sent pm.:-) Thanks.

  • @bkmcwd

    Thanks.

    While I don't do check exactly with side-by-side test, I also feel the noises of Sedna resembles to intra's.

  • GOLGOP and Canis Majoris don't mix ;-)

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  • @bkmwcd Did a testshot comparing your Natural- and C.M. soft skin of Nick Driftwood. C.M. recorded 2.3X higher in bitrate than Natural. C.M. gives a cleaner image with smoother curved details and less greens in the blacks but Natural is a great medium mbs patch! Coming days i will also compare a few higher bitrate GOP 3 patches of yours with GOP1 C.M. Thanks as always! Vimeo video: C.M. @ the left and Natural @ the right

    picture caniscroptest: upper prt. is natural - lower prt. is the shiny dog with soft skin - lol

    edit: the name of the last picture should be natural not golgop!

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  • @har_k

    Thanks, mate! :-)

    Although GOLGOP3-13 is not the setting which targeted span positively, I tweak it a little.

  • @soru

    "I also feel the noises of Sedna resembles to intra's."

    I also feel so. :-) Processing of the noises is somewhat difficult for me.

  • @Ramses

    Thanks for the info! :-) There is no telling whether to actually adopt to my setting, yet. Although I have not seen the newest matrix of @driftwood in detail yet, adjustment is somewhat required to combine.

  • @bkmcwd I will provide you with the unreleased scaled Canis Majoris P and B tables for 24p and HBR settings if you require them.

  • @ishvar

    Many thanks for good comparison! :-) I think that natural is one of the best settings in a medium range. I am also looking forward to the next comparison.

  • @driftwood

    Hi Nick, Of course, I would like to try it! Please send me!!! Many thanks!:-)

  • it is getting quite exiting here....

  • @ishvar

    Me too! :-)

  • @bkmcwd Here is GOLGOP3-13v4.13 compared to a few other settings in a dark room. Which setting would you prefer I use in the next low light test?

    I used GOLGOP3-13v4.13 this time because I already had it ready to use.

    Here are the shooting settings I used. http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/59978#Comment_59978

    These images all had the gamma and contrast pushed in post.

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  • @thepalalias

    Very interesting and excellent comparisons, mate! :-)

    "Which setting would you prefer I use in the next low light test?"

    Well, if it will be the test in the dark so far, I am interested in what happens to the result of the latest GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA4.

    Thanks a lot!

  • @bkmwcwd Great, I will download that one now. :)

  • @bkmcwd...

    whats cookin!

    i cannot wait to test a gol-gop13 w.CV night matrix....

    as the intra is impressive, it just needs those MEGA i frames to become a monster!

  • @thepalalias

    I am looking forward to the result. :-)

  • @flaschus

    Yes, I also cannot wait the unreleased Canis Majoris matrix from Nick! :-)

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