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BlackMagic: Official $2,995 raw cinema camera topic
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  • endotoxicendotoxic

    the only shit that really bothers me is the fact that the camera it is mac oriented. The SSD have to be mac file structure, and the software for monitoring is also for mac. There is far more PC user in the real production world than mac users around the globe. The should accept FAT, NTFS or the new exFAT for flash drives. Why only HSF+?????

  • AriaAria

    @Chaos123x, the 5D Mk3 is still in very specific look and feel niche of it's own along with the Nikon D800 to some extent. At this price point no single camera can cover all bases. It's just another affordable tool for a specific purpose. I think in the end people on the lower end that want to have the ability to be even more creative can make use of the 5D3, D800, GH2, Nex 7 or 5n and BMCC and get a TON of really unique and interesting capabilities that cover a wide range.

    I think this is a very exciting time in the creative market. I'm just curious to see how well a BMCC can be intercut with any of these other cameras.

  • L1N3ARXL1N3ARX

    Doesn't this camera walk all over the 1DC? I mean even with Canon 4k... it's compressed, I'd rather have 2.5k raw. That, and every other spec seems to throw dirt all over the Canon with the exception of the sensor size... but @ 5x the cost for a larger sensor...? Plus the magic cam looks far more like film to my eyes.

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    I don't think canon is going sell very many cameras this year to video shooters. Mostly to just rental houses.

    Unless your also a professional photographer I can see no reason to buy a 5D Mark III.

  • vladnikvladnik

    but if that canon c500 has 12 stop of DR than BMD camera kick ass...

  • vladnikvladnik

    sapienti sat

  • johnnymjohnnym

    That interview with Portman on Black Swan is so enlightening. They just made a brilliant movie with little money and a lot of aspiration, shooting S16. Peter Jackson won Cannes with a movie shot on S16.

  • vladnikvladnik

    @johnnym its not crop factor its how u use it... ;)

  • johnnymjohnnym

    @vladnik LOL If Darren Aronofsky can live with Rachel Weisz,...

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Canon looks like a bunch of idiots now.

    Bunch of idiots who are making good money :-) And as most realise now, they aimed at exactly right market.
    BMC is aimed on different people.

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    Canon looks like a bunch of idiots now.

  • vladnikvladnik

    if Darren Aronofsky can live with 3 times crop factor ... i could manage with 2.3 .....

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    2.3X

  • onedayoneday

    crop factor ???

    it seems more than 2.0 for sure...

  • vladnikvladnik

    just look c500...

    35000$ and average DR ... i'm not impressed ...

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    Taking all things in consideration this camera Is flipping amazing! It is really going to shake up the industry. Love to see how Red and Panasonic respond.

    Looks like Panasonic Cancelled there Af100 refresh because of this thing.

    But I think I will wait till next year before I seriously start looking for a new camera. My hacked Gh2 is just that damn good.

    Things will change a lot when the Black Magic Cinema Camera and the Digital Bolex are both on the market this summer. I cant see anyone buying a C300 now.

  • OedipaxOedipax

    @DrDave, even if the cameras look very similar the BMC will have big advantages for certain post workflows on account of being 12bit & RAW. But here's hoping it looks a little better ;)

  • johnnymjohnnym

    Those frame rates really tell the encoding isn't superfast, or else they would have maybe already included 60fps or even 120fps (at reduced resolution with rolling shutter ). Having global shutter at 48/50fps at 2592x2160 would be lovely for cinematic 2x anamorphic shooting. Alas, i think this will remain a dream for now.

  • vladnikvladnik

    i just hope that panasonic would unlock gh2 HDMI and offer flatter gamma with 0-255 recoding ... that will make gh2 competitor with BMD in low market... gh2 + hyperdeck shuttle 2=1000$

  • Chaos123xChaos123x

    This camera will save so much time in the editing room. No need to transcode footage to ProRes, no need to synce audio from a external recorder, a nice head start in the logging process with Meta Data already on the footage. Sounds good to me.

    Not sure why so many companies won't use standard formats like ProRes, and skimp out on simple things like balanced audio inputs or a head phone jack.

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @DrDave "Suppose it is no different from a GH2?"

    I hope not (look wise)... but with more DR. There's a small chance that even with RAW recording, a camera that does such great down-scaling like the GH2 may still have better detail and less-noise... since it's coming from a 5k image vs. the BMD 2.5k image.

    The BMD Cinema Camera SHOULD have a better image... but we'll have to wait and see.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    I am amazed the people would order one without really seeing the IQ. Suppose it is no different from a GH2?

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    @vladnik "arri alexa sensor was made by people (Cypress) not Greek Gods...there are at least two years difference between this two sensor (eons in sensor technology)"

    +1

    I don't know why everyone insists on mystifying cameras like the Alexa. There's nothing "magical" about the Alexa that makes it so incomparable to anything else. Sensor tech is sensor tech. The iphone5 will probably have more DR than the current Alexa.

  • bubbabubba

    Anamorphic lenses all mount to +/- 50mm EF or F mount lenses ( How pro is that? )

  • bubbabubba

    @oneday

    Yep, and the ultra wide lens of the decade, the Sigma 8-16mm comes in EF mount

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