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Driftwood Quantum X Settings, Series 3: VY Canis Majoris, Mysteron, Sedna, Orion, Cluster...
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  • @jfro Good to hear. I only asked because I would be more likely to use that than 24L if I knew I was mostly going to shoot low-bitrate.

  • @driftwood. I understand your settings are striving for the best this little beast can do. And I'm energetically trying many of them. I'm just trying to make it so I can have both in one patch (high bit rate and a 70-80 spannable 24p & 60p). I am not complaining, just searching, hoping and wishing for Nirvana. @thepalalias Yes, I've used SPMBU and am happy with it as with some of the other Driftwood settings.

  • @driftwood - hi nick, just planning on going out in a couple of hrs to shoot some coverage of a couple of musicians making an interesting recording. Debating whether to give Mysteron or Sedna a whirl for 25p. In a post over page you might have suggested Sedna of the two is more geared to 50/25p settings and Mysteron aims more to favouring 60/30p of the two?

    Might just shoot 24p with Mysteron which is currently on, but suddenly thought for this one might be worth having native 25p to avoid a speed up conform down the track. Any thoughts on which is better for 25 if any?

    (no worries if you're not online to see this)

  • @jfro Once again. The L modes on the extreme settings are not my concern for achieving working/usable Intra recordings. Everything is primed for the H setting. Try some of my non extreme settings if you want usable Intra low bitrate.

  • @jfro Have you SPMBU v1 for 24H? I know it is old school but it was my go-to patch for long shoots for months and is in that range. Forget it for SH mode, but there are other options for that.

    My test render finished - got to go.

  • @thepalalias I've checked it a couple times. 24H is fine. Consistent full frames as it should be. 24L is the up and down issue.

    In testing 60p pointing at tv, it spanned over till the card was filled on Sandisk 32gb @ 30mb/s card. On a transend class 10 16gb card it spanned once then stopped. Also got one clip that was 30 seconds long that read 4 minutes. Trying to duplicate.

    24L rolled at 1080 / 24p on a couple tests, but not enough to go shoot a job jet. I don't have enough card speed to roll/ span on the 24H so wouldn't try that on a job.

    I would like a 70-80mbs 24L for shooting interviews and would like that and 60p to span. The higher 140mbs for special shots. I'm not one for reflashing my 2 cameras during a job, so that's why I'm looking at the 24L. I had been testing sedna b because I was not having write errors as much as sedna A on the 30mbs 32gb sandisk cards in 24L on busy shots.

  • @exilenorth Thanks, it is just the editing right now. Mixing old HV30 footage with Sedna AQ1 C takes a bit of work.

  • @jfro Is there any chance you can re-test to see if the chart is similar in 24H as well? @Driftwood has said before that 24L is not the priority on these patches, so there is a chance it may have issues 24H does not (though I have not tested 24L at all and could not say).

    @rajamalik I am halfway through the YouTube video. Will try to get next half during next render or load.

  • sorry my connection and browser have gone hire-wired...and cannot seem to deleted the multiple posts...

  • @thepalalias Thanks man, have a good shoot.

  • @luxis You seem to have accidentally triple-posted. You may want to fix that. :) Glad to hear your experiences.

  • @thepalalias i got 14 minutes with Mysteron on a 8gb 15mbits SanDisk in 720p(50) before it stopped"due to the writing speed of the card...)!!! i used 800 shutte

  • Mysteron 24L shot. Is this right? Simple head shot and it looks ok...but I'm not sure if this is how intra should chart.

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  • @thepalalias i got 14 minutes with Mysteron on a 8gb 15mbits SanDisk in 720p(50) before it stopped"due to the writing speed of the card...)!!! i used 800 shutte

  • @thepalalias i got 14 minutes with Mysteron on a 8gb 15mbits SanDisk in 720p(50) before it stopped"due to the writing speed of the card...)!!! i used 800 shutter with 3200iso and hellios lens at f2...really pushing it... fast pans, lots of details...etc included... also the noise is quite bearable and most likely neat video or similar will make it even better. average 30mbits. on this card any other mo

  • @allenswrench , @rafa is correct. I'm not recording out the HDMI, just monitoring through it, while recording to SD

    @sanzadez - That's very interesting because my camera doesn't actually act that way. When I plug in the Zacuto EVF into the HDMI port, the screen does not flash to black and then change SH to FH. It doesn't flash at all and doesn't change at all. I can pop the HDMI cable in and out all day and the screen stays the same. I'm curious as to why that would be.

    For anyone that is interested Sedna Q20 (option B) seems to be spanning fine in 720p (and 1080i!), and 1080p. I can confirm it requires good SD cards, though. I have tried it with three different cards with mixed results. Sandisk Extreme HD Video Class 10 16GB, Transcend Class 10 16GB, and Patriot LX Class 10 32GB.

    The class Sandisk cards seem to perform the best. I have only gotten two write speed errors while recording during my tests with those cards. I recorded about 5 16GB cards worth of footage. The nice thing about the errors so far is that you don't lose the footage, the card just stops recording, and you start again. Both errors occurred when recording 720p, and none happened at 1080i. Also strange, but I couldn't reproduce the errors. They both happened during relatively still (but detailed) shots. I walked around with the camera afterwards, waved my hand in front of it, swish-panned, etc, and didn't get the errors again with the Sandisks

    The Transcend cards worked well. Over about 4 16GB cards, I had maybe 5 errors (this was when I was recording in 1080i when I thought it was 720p)

    The Patriot LX cards were not usable. I got error after error to the point where I couldn't record really anything on them. (this was at 720p)

    And for what it's worth, 720p in Sedna Q20 is really beautiful.

  • @exilenorth There should be no problems incorporating it. I have not tried it yet but there were no changes between 3.64D and 3.65D that should affect audio (and the settings are already working properly in Mysteron).

    I use -2, -2, -2, -2 because I always keep NR at -2 with a decent bitrate patch (and even most of the time if I am stuck in Factory 1.1).

    Just a heads up: I will be on the site less until this music video is done, which should be between now and Tuesday.

  • @thepalalias Question, could Orion be worked through 3.65D and incorporate with Pasadena? I am considering this. I anticipate no problems. any experiences. also enlighten me please on -2-2-2-2 and or -2-2-2-1 Thanks

  • @LumixUser >Sedna AQ1 Ver. A is VERY special...

    There is no Ver.A ??? only C, D and H

    UPDATE : ok i see what you're referring too.

  • @rajamalik Sorry haven't had a chance yet. This is the first time I have been on the site using a computer as opposed to a phone in maybe half a week. If I can find a few minutes I will try to watch it.

  • @thepalalias omg is it,.... it didnt worked for me,..write error,... did u watched this video,..i did in sedna aaq1 @LumixUser 4:2:2 for mysteron or sedna aaq1 ?? do mysteron lack details and sharpness or it is very near to sedna,..just technically and idea???

  • @rajamalik That is interesting. I shot using Mysteron for 1 minute 46 seconds in 60P SH mode on a Delkin Elite 16GB 95 m/s without encountering any errors, and filled up the whole card with several shorter shots in that mode. I wonder what the difference is.

  • @thepalalias no 720 60p has a write error in mysteron ,..eventhough i have 64g 95 m/s cards i couldnt run these,... i am talking about 24H,..the 1080 24p setting ,.....i am really afraid to test other setting and had lots of error in sedna too,... only 24p works great,..

  • @thepalalias all the best for your music video,..i am very glad and eager to watch your works,..

  • @Rajamalik Are we talking about 24H, or SH mode in 50P or 60P?

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