Really? Stick to your high GOP and 32mb/s then. No one is trying to sell or convince you of anything. It takes roughly 2 minutes to set settings in ptools, save the firmware and load it into the GH2. Load whatever settings you're curious about and SHOOT footage - LOOK at it, TEST it, do whatever you want to it and find out what works for you.
Could you post an entire stream parser frame mode bar chart for the 60 mb/sec GOP=3 while filming something completely static(No camera movement and no subject movement)? I would like to see the entire graph for a 10-20 second clip. If you could just zoom out until the whole clip is visible in the chart.
What I want to see is if the cadence of the codec is affected by the GOP. I just did some testing with the 32 mb/sec and 25 mb/sec settings and anything below a GOP of 12 will cause an irregular cadence. Now this irregular cadence is not necessarily bad. However, I would like to find out if the higher bit rate settings show the same thing.
"I do not think so! not have a picture quality difference between 32, 42, 50, 60, 65 MBit can recognize"
"Maybe not 60 to 65 but 32 to 65???? Dude, you need an eye exam."
Prove that with a scientific 1 to 1 comparison and I will believe it. Otherwise I haven't seen any indication that extreme bit rates are producing a visual difference.
@jokami That looked !"#$ing amazing! I am going to try out Kae's settings in Tokyo this weekend to shoot a promotion video for my friend's new album. I will make sure to post it here when I am finished!
I found an easy way to test the max bitrate on the GH2vk. There is no need to shoot death charts or go outside. All you will need a dark environment. Using Kae's 24p 3gop 65mbps setting, I first go to the 24p mode change shooting mode to shutter priority, click the wheel to dial up the EV to +3, and shoot.
@Kae >>Maybe not 60 to 65 but 32 to 65???? Dude, you need an eye exam.>>
That is a real dumb answer. If the only thing you have to say is that it is "looking fine" and that it has "more filmic grain", then I can do very well without a "low-gop-patch" made by Kae. What exactly is looking better? And if there is something, please show it in a side-by-side comparison...
I'm going to bow out of this argument, especially when it's in german - but I would do it in French! Seriously, I wish someone would shoot a 2k rez chart at 50, 60 and 65 settings to see if there is any detail difference in the luma channel. For me, 65mb/s is fine, I like it, see no reason to change. But 60 and 50 are great too and admittedly more stable as far as consistent playback in cam, spanning etc. Paix.
I tried 1, 2, 4 and 5 GOP settings. The 1 wasn't stable at all as you found out. The 2, 4 and 5 would record but would playback weird on the desktop. That's how I settled at 3 a day after 3.61d came out. I had been shooting at 3 GOp for a long time with the GH1. GOP1 didn't look that much better for all the hassle it created with instability.
The best Ive come with a stable recording of over a minute with gop 1 is with terrible bitrates even though they are obviously set higher. e.g. attached.
> +1. 65Mbps ist ein bisschen extrem für den Moment. 65Mbps Patch nicht produzieren gelegentlichen Spitzen bis 70Mbps in eigentliche Footage. Dann muss die Kamera neu starten, um den Clip ansehen und Vimeo nicht verarbeiten kann die Raw-Datei. 60 ... oder 50 hat mehr Spielraum für bitrate Spikes.< thank you!!!
@Butt +1. 65Mbps is a bit extreme for now. 65Mbps patch does produce occasional spike to 70Mbps in actual footage. Then the camera needs reboot to view the clip, and Vimeo can't process the raw file. 60... or 50 has more leeway for bitrate spikes.
Is there a stable GOP3 above 32MB/s that doesn't have the first second(s) glitches, will work work in all other resolutions and fps and will span? If not which 32 MB/s will?