M6 Sports Settings [gop 2]

mozes

@Nayche , i did today shot a birthday, done in 720 and i was surprised how well it came out.
Way better the i suspected.

When done editing i will post the video....

For now, here are some action shots that i did also today

Vimeo says.
We have some recommendations for this video:
This video's datarate is 114689kbps, which is pretty high. For HD video? (its not that high!!)

Please download the orginal mts file....vimeo.com/42467229

peternap

It was windy today so I videoed one of my hayfields using a 20mm Pancake in TE mode. That locks up a lot of the settings when the seed heads start whipping around.

I ran one clip for 5 minutes then shut it down. Color is pretty good and the image is clean .

mozes

@peternap thx for trying
i use my lawn to test, and some trees....
doesnt your splash player, support gpu acceleration?

peternap

@mozes Yes it does and I didn't have it active.

karl

I briefly tried the M6 Sport settings (1.1 from May 14th) to check whether the post-production issues I have regarding "cutting in the compressed domain" are going away when no b-frames are involved. Alas, they did not. (But of course this is not a patch setting's fault, it's an issue of the software I use.)

(Regarding IQ, I liked the results from GOLGOP3-13 better than those of M6, but IQ was not the focus of my test.)

peternap

Just to clarify....M6 did NOT lock up. It just kept ticking along. I also videoed a couple of cars (I have to go about two miles to get to the main road which is not busy...a car every ten minutes or so)...No issues there either.

Nayche

@mozes Thanks for the link and the answer. I'll check it out now.

mozes

No corrections are done, profile is vibrant -2 -2 0 0.

mozes

Done in with the lens in 150mm, handhold with no stabilization.
So that is done in post, it did not came out very well

mozes

Realy fast objects ;-)

Kihlian

@mozes I will not bother you, but, since you make often slow motions from your footage, it make sense to make a 50p all intra settings or not? Are there some issues? I ask also because they released today the official release of LightWorks (www.lwks.com) and the program is also able to transcode AVCHD to DVCPRO when importing files that maybe is all intra. Could be an interesting thing..

mozes

actualy i have it gop1 (exept for 720 ntsc, i cant get it to work).
The above picture are done in 720 gop1 pal.
But it was not stable enough, sometimes it did go very well, another moment the record was stopped by the gh2, BUT the files get saved.
i have now limit the encoder frame limit
i wil post it here for who wants to try it.
it have the driftwood sedna A1 scaling tables and the flowmotion 2 deblocking tables from lpowel
i did call it copycat, becouse it uses a lot off settings from others (see credits in ini file

i also added some pictures from Streamparser Elementry Stream Encoder..
And i think it looks good..
Video example, 48 mb. http://speedy.sh/BkhYz/00040.MTS its the one you see in the streamparser snapshot.

bheath

@mozes - great work here. You have a good handle on this. And the slowmotion stuff. Re: this most recent settings file what would be the settings if I switched to 24p H? Would they be the sedna aq1? Just wondfering about the look and datarate. Thanks again.

mozes

all modes are sedna A, the look and datarate's are oke, all modes give good bitrate.
To be honest, i dont like HBR, 50i is better, way better if i must say it....
I never use it, i shoot 720 and in post i render to 1080p. and it still looks better then HBR.

bheath

Thanks for that, Mozes. I like the motion of 720 too. I also have been messing around with 80% variable rate, and have had decent motion results. Cheers

Kihlian

Tried it. Gives me write errors also in H mode on 50p. Say to me registration annulled due to the SD card write speed limitations, camera freezes, have to remove battery. Tried with Panny 14mm 2.5. I have a SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 32GB. Sad because 50p GOP 1 was just what I was looking for..

mozes

Thx for trying @Kihlian weird that you did have probs with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s 32GB.
I use a Sandisk Extreme Video HD 30mb/s. card, and even when a write error is there, the file gets saved, only it can take up to more then 10 seconds before the gh2 is ready for next shot...
What you can do is changing the 50fps frame limit in "Patches for testers" > "Encoder frame limits"> "50fps frame limit" To a buffer limit off "2200000"

Kihlian

@mozes Thx, will try it tomorrow. Have tried to flash again the GH2 with your settings after formatting the card, but still problems after 5 seconds and the file could not be read from VLC or WMP.

mozes

Well its a strange thing, sometimes it go's very good, and the next time its something like 5 seconds and it stops.
I did try all AQ settings, but it doesn't make any differences.

But the 720 gop2 setting is good enough for decent slowmotion.

mozes

Well i have a strange thing ad the moment.
I was improving the sports setting, and it says Framerate 50,199 fps ?
And in ntsc Framerate: 60,150 fps where does that ,199 and ,150 comes from?
Pal http://speedy.sh/3PUXQ/00000.MTS 46mb
Ntsc http://speedy.sh/yNMNx/00.MTS 52mb

Kihlian

Tried to lower the buffer limit to 2200000 this time stops after 13 seconds, before was 5 seconds.

mozes

But it did not save the file?

Kihlian

Saves a file with 0 bytes, could not be read from VLC, camera freezes have to remove battery..

mozes

Damn thats weird, on my gh2 the files are all saved.
i only have a Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 14-150mm 1:4-5.6 lens.
its practical the same as the pana 14-140 except the Olympus doesn't have stabilization..

I have updated the gop2 setting, lets hope this weekend the weather is as last weekend, so it will give a good result next to the gop1 clips...

mozes

Ad the moment i have no Internet, but as we are back on-line, there will be a update.
Sports will be in 10 small differences taste
720 pal Gop 2 in vbr from 20, 22, 25, 30, 35, 40, 55 to 100mb/s
HBR & 50i Pal and 24p Gop 1 up to 100mb/s

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