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China launches Chang'e-5 lunar mission - huge warning to US
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  • radikalfilmradikalfilm

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev I'm enjoying this conversation. I hold no opinion wrt whether they were or weren't faked. The question I pose is this: What would constitute positive proof, coming from the Chinese, that those missions (their Moon landing portion, anyway) were faked? Substitute with Red and Blue instead of China and the US, to remove personal bias. What proof could team Red offer in the court of public opinion, where these matters are judged, that team Blue faked the missions?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @radikalfilm

    so your contention is Apollo missions 10 through 17 have been deep faked, and the Chinese will use that as geopolitical blackmail.

    Also Apollo-Soyus had been faked. Actually it had been most fun fake.

    I think China already have nice proof, but they want to make it into atomic bomb like force impact on US morale.

    Right now US are sure that they can negotiate the terms, as Chinese elites are similar opportunists to USSR ones. But if something will happen inside China - the bomb can detonate.

  • radikalfilmradikalfilm

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev @flash so your contention is Apollo missions 10 through 17 have been deep faked, and the Chinese will use that as geopolitical blackmail. This is unprovable either way over the internet, but new cold war movies could come out of it. I've learnt that some of the craziest conspiracy theories can sometimes be real, so I don't have my own opinion, I'm just noticing the filmmaking potential :-)

  • jleojleo

    Even popular culture, now preparing Chinese kids to go to the moon and work at first Chinese restaurant on lunar surface :)

    From Shanghai Pearl Studio Film and Television Technology Co., Ltd and Netflix, a US/China Coproduction.

    OVER THE MOON (2020) is a musical adventure about a girl who builds a rocket ship to travel to the moon in order to prove to her father that a legendary Moon Goddess ( Chang'e ) really exists. When she gets to the “other side” she unexpectedly discovers a whimsical world filled with fantastical creatures - some of whom threaten her and others who ultimately help her find her way home

  • flashflash

    I agree.

    And I bet the Chinese will land on the invisible side of the moon ;-)

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @flash

    It had been quite fun as previous Chinese mission guys explained why resolution of photos was so low that it is impossible to check Apollo sites :-)

    Usually each mission always go right before important moment in economic relations, this one is big warning to Baiden as he needs to keep promises and dismantle most tariffs.

  • flashflash

    I hope the proof of this duck will never be found. It would not help anyone, on the contrary, it does more harm than good. And at the same time I think it would make the whole planet laugh :-)))

    Personally, I think going to the moon is not as impressive as it is for all of humanity to believe. This lie is poetic somewhere.

    And just for that, I love America <3

  • flashflash

    I totally agree.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @flash

    It is not that I have such personal opinion :-) it is lot of facts that tell such. US too badly needed this landings, but, unfortunately, tech was not up to the task.

    Our beloved opportunists after this destroyed(!) all Lunar mission ships and rockets. Including all drafts and 90% of all communication archives. As they knew that big plan will fail otherwise (fake Lunar landings helped to dismantle socialism a lot!).

  • flashflash

    @VK, do you think USA never land on the moon ?

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